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Old 05-12-2011, 04:23 PM
Gumcrew2 Gumcrew2 is offline
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Default Excessive Outside Tire Wear

So I got my alignment done 5000mi ago, from a very good friends shop. Aligned straight, WAS towed out when it came it, but left driving great.

The outside half of the tire tread is almost gone. While the inner half of the tire tread has 70% tread.

Both front tires are worn EXACTLY the same. The outer half is almost gone, inner half is in great shape.

What would cause this kind of Camber/out wear issue?

I run 195/60R15 Tires on 15x8 Black D-Windows.
Tire size is slightly smaller than stock, but if anything that would make the INSIDE wear after from the TTB design wouldn't it?
Tires we're new, balanced fine.

I drove about 1000mi on the tires BEFORE the alignment, so they started wearing outside heavy/ then continued to after the alignment

Ball joints are good. Bushings where arm meets frame are good. No bushings where the bolt goes through the coil spring bottom to the traction beam/arm.

What would make BOTH wear the same way exactly?
Rear tires are all perfect/ show 0 wear compared to the front.
I don't wanna buy tires/swap good ones one until I figure this out!



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Old 05-12-2011, 04:29 PM
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Wow...I dont think the alignment did the trick. Did you have the cambers and tie rods checked?
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:38 PM
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hard turning? haha jk
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:48 PM
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Spec Sheet From Alignment::
Front LEFT: Camber 0.3*, Caster 3.8*, Toe -0.07* (Toe spec -0.10*- 0.16*)
Front RIGHT: Camber 0.6*, Caster 1.9*, Toe -0.05* (Toe spec -0.10*- 0.16*)

Cross Camber -0.4* (spec -0.6* - 0.6*)
___ ONLY NUMBER OUT OF SPEC :Cross Caster 1.9* (spec -1.5* - 1.5*)
Total Toe: -0.12* (spec -0.20* - 0.32*)

Legitimitally I take a LOT of hard turns (think: hard enough to go on 2 wheels, really)
But that's a minimal amount of time/distance to cause SUCH aggresive wear.
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:52 PM
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take it back to the aligment shop that did it and see what they have to say
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Old 05-12-2011, 04:59 PM
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take it back to the aligment shop that did it and see what they have to say
Called and talked to my friend/owner, and to the tech that did the alignment. There was nothing out of the ordinary when it came in. And I watched him adjust the tie rod sleeves to spec on the alignment rack, so I know they aligned it as best as possible originally.

I'll bring it in tomorrow and have them put it on the rack again to see if it's significantly different.

No curb checks/anything like that.
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:01 PM
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Maybe take it to another shop to have it checked
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Old 05-12-2011, 05:10 PM
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Also maybe u should be checking your tires alil sooner because that has been wearing bad alot longer than when you should have noticed it. I know it dont help your problem now, but still something to keep in mind. Maybe some of your front suspension is starting to go and not wanting to hold the alignment for awhile.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:23 PM
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I'm gonna have another shop check the alignment (since it's always free anyway)

And yes I know I should have been paying attention to the tire wear. I was paying attention I just knew it was happening and the tires we're gonna be hosed anyway. I now have the time to deal with it since I got everything else working right (ya know, like the pistons in it, and the clutch and tranny back in lol)
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:26 PM
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damn those tires are pretty toast.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:40 PM
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It's looking like you need to have the entire front suspension redone. I had mine redone not long ago. It had a really hard time turning, stopping and everything except excessive tire wear. I had new bushings, tierods, tierod ends, brake pads, brake rotors, and new ball joints installed before getting it re aligned. Check your brake rotors too. They've been known to cause problems as well. Anytime you have an alignment done always check your brake pads and rotors afterward. A bad alignment job can really toast your brakes to.
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:52 PM
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Lol really? did you really just say I need my whole front suspension done

K here's whats BEEN done in the past 5000mi::
Front wheel bearings, sway bar and bushings, calipers, rotors, pads, coils, shocks, radius arm bushings.

That's it man
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Old 05-12-2011, 08:52 PM
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. A bad alignment job can really toast your brakes to.
not true at all. alignments don't affect the brakes whatsoever
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:06 PM
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not true at all. alignments don't affect the brakes whatsoever
Are you sure about that? I may be thinking about the old drum brakes they use to use years ago too. But I've seen the brake pads go bad because of a alignment issue.

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Lol really? did you really just say I need my whole front suspension done

K here's whats BEEN done in the past 5000mi::
Front wheel bearings, sway bar and bushings, calipers, rotors, pads, coils, shocks, radius arm bushings.

That's it man
Whoa now. I wish I'd known that earlier. You didn't really post what all you've had done either though. So I'll be leaving now. All I was trying to do was help out some.
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Old 05-12-2011, 09:32 PM
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Are you sure about that? I may be thinking about the old drum brakes they use to use years ago too. But I've seen the brake pads go bad because of a alignment issue.

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Whoa now. I wish I'd known that earlier. You didn't really post what all you've had done either though. So I'll be leaving now. All I was trying to do was help out some.


I appreciate the help, don't get me wrong, didn't mean to sound like I'm jumping on you.
We're all here to help each other out, the more brains thinking about one problem the better a solution we'll come up with.


I see 0 correlation between brake rotors and pads and any kind of alingment/tire wear issues. As long as wheel bearings are not ridiculously loose or something.

I do agree that the tie rod/ tie rod ends, and radius arm bushings could affect the alignment.


If I was unclear in my first post, my appologies.
Since aquiring the truck in Feb::
NEW: pistons, rings, rods, bearings, clutch master and slave and throwout bearing, all wires, hoses, vacuum lines, exhaust manifold, cat, muffler, tailpipe, carberatuor, starter+solenoid, alternator, battery, gauge sending units, radiator, water pump, thermostat, distributor cap/rotor, coil, shocks, both sway bars and links and bushings, radius arm and leaf spring bushings, brake master cylinder, booster, all brake lines, all wheel bearings, rotors, pads, drums, shoes.

That's it for actual moving parts, everything else done since I got in 3mo ago is interior/audio/lighting
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