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Old 05-12-2011, 09:41 PM
knightmare1015 knightmare1015 is offline
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I appreciate the help, don't get me wrong, didn't mean to sound like I'm jumping on you.
We're all here to help each other out, the more brains thinking about one problem the better a solution we'll come up with.


I see 0 correlation between brake rotors and pads and any kind of alingment/tire wear issues. As long as wheel bearings are not ridiculously loose or something.

I do agree that the tie rod/ tie rod ends, and radius arm bushings could affect the alignment.


If I was unclear in my first post, my appologies.
Since aquiring the truck in Feb::
NEW: pistons, rings, rods, bearings, clutch master and slave and throwout bearing, all wires, hoses, vacuum lines, exhaust manifold, cat, muffler, tailpipe, carberatuor, starter+solenoid, alternator, battery, gauge sending units, radiator, water pump, thermostat, distributor cap/rotor, coil, shocks, both sway bars and links and bushings, radius arm and leaf spring bushings, brake master cylinder, booster, all brake lines, all wheel bearings, rotors, pads, drums, shoes.

That's it for actual moving parts, everything else done since I got in 3mo ago is interior/audio/lighting
Ok kool. My knowledge is a bit "old school" and out of date a bit. That was what I was thinking about, the wheel bearings, but didn't post it. Mine was bad and had to be replaced. The tierods and ends play a huge roll in alignment. You've put in alot of stuff since you got it. Sounds like you've rebuilt the entire suspension from front to rear, rebuilt the engine and alot of other things as well. Hey can you tell me where I can get a better clutch, and throw out bearing by any chance?
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:08 PM
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i wood not get to stressed yet most likely what you are sing is caused by the simple fact once a tier has a ware pattern it is there for the life of the tier weather or not you fix the aliment get new tires . and check the almint for pace of mind if you want
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Old 05-12-2011, 10:17 PM
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Ok kool. My knowledge is a bit "old school" and out of date a bit. That was what I was thinking about, the wheel bearings, but didn't post it. Mine was bad and had to be replaced. The tierods and ends play a huge roll in alignment. You've put in alot of stuff since you got it. Sounds like you've rebuilt the entire suspension from front to rear, rebuilt the engine and alot of other things as well. Hey can you tell me where I can get a better clutch, and throw out bearing by any chance?

I'm planning a "steering rebuild" soon. The previous owner told me when I purchased it that he kept tightening the gear mesh adjusting screw in the steering box "because it was loose" so I'm assuming the box is toast. Though it has not "loosened up" any on me since purchase.
I think I'll HAVE to do: Steering box, both tie rods, and both seperate ends. Just to make sure everything is new since it's a 30yr old truck that sees SERIOUS abuse.


I've rebuilt almost everything lol. I bought it and it ran on 3 and a half pistons (literally, half a piston was in the oil pan).

I opted for a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. (came with throwout bearing and pilot bearing). I paid $190 for it on eBay, retail can be almost $300 though(!!). That being said, the same time we did my clutch we did a friends on his Ranger with a $75 napa special and it seems to be holding up great.
I have seen amazing success with the Centerforce Dual Friction in my 300hp Jeep, and 0 difference in pedal feel after 80,000mi.


This truck is designed to be the ultimate CHEAP NEW truck. So far the only things left I want to do are::

Steering (as stated above)
Glass ( needs windshield/ rear glass/ drivers mirror)
Interior cage (minimally invasive, simple 6point cage, 5 point harnesses)
5-Speed! I need a 5th gear sooooooo bad.

Right now its at $2429.51 total investment in the truck. My goal is under $3500 for EVERYTHING.

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I think I may have my problem figured out!

An ASE master tech on another forum I'm on suggested that my welded rear differential may be the cause of my problems.
After some serious thought/ he's definitely right!

I'm scrubbing the outside of the front tires when turning because it's forcing understeer from the welded rear end "pussshing" the front out.

SOOO that AND having slightly positive camber would be doubly high tire wear.
SOOOOOO does anyone know of a company that makes adjustable ball joints for my ranger so I can dial in a slightly negative camber of -1* or -1.5*, to help offset it?
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Old 05-13-2011, 12:37 AM
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I'm planning a "steering rebuild" soon. The previous owner told me when I purchased it that he kept tightening the gear mesh adjusting screw in the steering box "because it was loose" so I'm assuming the box is toast. Though it has not "loosened up" any on me since purchase.
I think I'll HAVE to do: Steering box, both tie rods, and both seperate ends. Just to make sure everything is new since it's a 30yr old truck that sees SERIOUS abuse.


I've rebuilt almost everything lol. I bought it and it ran on 3 and a half pistons (literally, half a piston was in the oil pan).

I opted for a Centerforce Dual Friction clutch. (came with throwout bearing and pilot bearing). I paid $190 for it on eBay, retail can be almost $300 though(!!). That being said, the same time we did my clutch we did a friends on his Ranger with a $75 napa special and it seems to be holding up great.
I have seen amazing success with the Centerforce Dual Friction in my 300hp Jeep, and 0 difference in pedal feel after 80,000mi.


This truck is designed to be the ultimate CHEAP NEW truck. So far the only things left I want to do are::

Steering (as stated above)
Glass ( needs windshield/ rear glass/ drivers mirror)
Interior cage (minimally invasive, simple 6point cage, 5 point harnesses)
5-Speed! I need a 5th gear sooooooo bad.

Right now its at $2429.51 total investment in the truck. My goal is under $3500 for EVERYTHING.

----------

I think I may have my problem figured out!

An ASE master tech on another forum I'm on suggested that my welded rear differential may be the cause of my problems.
After some serious thought/ he's definitely right!

I'm scrubbing the outside of the front tires when turning because it's forcing understeer from the welded rear end "pussshing" the front out.

SOOO that AND having slightly positive camber would be doubly high tire wear.
SOOOOOO does anyone know of a company that makes adjustable ball joints for my ranger so I can dial in a slightly negative camber of -1* or -1.5*, to help offset it?
I don't know of any company that has adjustable ball joints. But I do know of a company that has good parts and best of all they're cheap. www.speedwaymotors.com . they carry everything from exhaust, to suspension parts and kits. They also have a tubing bender that you might be interested in too. Also I recomend a chevy vega steering box. you can get one from the website listed above. So you're saying a centerforce clutch will work right?
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Old 05-13-2011, 04:12 PM
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Make sure centerforce has a clutch that fits (just call em). They should.

Why a Vega steering box?
Does it bolt right in?
I want something tighter ratio if possible, even though it'll be harder to turn without power steering. Right now it's like 5 turns lock-to-lock.


EDIT: I didn't see any Ranger parts on there anyway
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Old 05-13-2011, 09:55 PM
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Make sure centerforce has a clutch that fits (just call em). They should.

Why a Vega steering box?
Does it bolt right in?
I want something tighter ratio if possible, even though it'll be harder to turn without power steering. Right now it's like 5 turns lock-to-lock.


EDIT: I didn't see any Ranger parts on there anyway
Thanks man about the clutch. No they didn't have any specific vehicle parts listed on there. About the closest thing that they have listed is F100 parts. A chevy vega steering box/cross steering is about the cheapest you can get and you can get them in tighter ratios. They don't bolt in until after you weld the mounting bracket on which isn't difficult at all. I figured that website would help you out some concerning steering components and some other things that I though you'd find interesting on that website. And to answer your other question, they have some vega steering boxes out there that are 2 turns lock to lock, and Saginaw also makes a chevy vega steering box/cross steering system that has power steering capabilities, yet installs like a manual steering system. It gives you the option of having power steering if you want it. Plus after driving a T-bucket with no power steering, I though it was going to be hard to steer and drive, but that chevy vega steering box proved me wrong. It was effortless.
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