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Old 11-30-2015, 04:39 PM
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I have a 2000 Ranger. The ABS wants to kick in after pumping 2-3 times on dry pavement. Then when they kick in its almost like brakes DONT work. It doesn't stop the truck as fast. Feels like its sliding. On snow when the ABS does work on first pump it feels like it too. It feels like ABS stops brakes from working in away. Any comments? Thnak You
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Old 11-30-2015, 06:54 PM
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Not supposed to pump the brake pedal. Hold firm pressure without removing your foot from the pedal, until you're stopped. Also, maybe slow down.
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Old 11-30-2015, 07:35 PM
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Are you 2WD or 4x4? If you're 2WD, take the sensor out of the back of the spindle with an 8mm socket and clean the sensor off. When mine get covered in mud my ABS does funny things. If that doesn't work, take the rotor off and clean the reluctor wheel off.

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Not supposed to pump the brake pedal. Hold firm pressure without removing your foot from the pedal, until you're stopped. Also, maybe slow down.
I think his ABS is activating too early is what he's saying.
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Old 11-30-2015, 10:48 PM
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He's talking about pumping the brakes like he is in a 59 Jimmy. Gotta hold pressure for antilock to work correctly.
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Old 11-30-2015, 11:32 PM
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I can see it going both ways, GLH. His post isn't very descriptive so it's hard to know what he's asking. This is throwing me off:

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Then when they kick in its almost like brakes DONT work. It doesn't stop the truck as fast. It feels like ABS stops brakes from working in away.
Either he's just experiencing normal ABS behavior, or his ABS is kicking in way too early, not allowing more pedal pressure prior to ABS activation, thus not allowing the brakes to function effectively (which happened on my moms former 1998 Windstar and it was scary as shit)

For example, the Windstar, coming up to a steady 5mph stop at a stop sign and the ABS sporadically kicks in and you can't make a gentle stop.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:18 AM
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I can see it going both ways, GLH. His post isn't very descriptive so it's hard to know what he's asking. This is throwing me off:



Either he's just experiencing normal ABS behavior, or his ABS is kicking in way too early, not allowing more pedal pressure prior to ABS activation, thus not allowing the brakes to function effectively (which happened on my moms former 1998 Windstar and it was scary as shit)

For example, the Windstar, coming up to a steady 5mph stop at a stop sign and the ABS sporadically kicks in and you can't make a gentle stop.
GLH seemed pretty clear to me. You do not pump ABS brakes. You hold the pedal steady and the ABS pulses the brakes.

In the snow and ice some ABS systems act totally fubared.
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Old 12-01-2015, 06:11 AM
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Ok, with ABS you don't pump brakes, and in winter (especially since you're pumping them) you should remove the ABS fuse - completely disabling ABS.
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Old 12-01-2015, 07:36 AM
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have experienced what you describe. if you have wheel lockup braking can be greatly reduced. system does not activate properly. if you brake not as heavily you can avoid the problem. would not pull fuse to system. just realize its limitations.
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Old 12-01-2015, 01:54 PM
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Ok, you have 2 reasonable options, fix the problem or unplug abs module, do not just leave it as is if it is preventing you from stopping in any way.
I know of some vehicles that when the abs module is going out it will think the tires are skidding and push back on the pedal making braking impossible, same issue can be caused by sensors though so testing is needed, I'm not sure on the system as my ABS system is different I would assume.

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Ok, with ABS you don't pump brakes, and in winter (especially since you're pumping them) you should remove the ABS fuse - completely disabling ABS.
Yes, this is a good idea, if you are using your truck all the time and are more comfortable just hammering the breaks maybe not, but if you can drive without abs this is a good idea.
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have experienced what you describe. if you have wheel lockup braking can be greatly reduced. system does not activate properly. if you brake not as heavily you can avoid the problem. would not pull fuse to system. just realize its limitations.
From what I understand if your abs is limited stopping capabilities this is a bad idea, braking systems limitations need to be non existent and anything that slows the stopping is a bad thing.

Unplug or fix, personally I'd unplug but its what you feel comfortable with
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:05 PM
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Ok, with ABS you don't pump brakes, and in winter (especially since you're pumping them) you should remove the ABS fuse - completely disabling ABS.
Agreed ^^ firm pressure, don't pump.

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Ok, you have 2 reasonable options, fix the problem or unplug abs module, do not just leave it as is if it is preventing you from stopping in any way. I know of some vehicles that when the abs module is going out it will think the tires are skidding and push back on the pedal making braking impossible, same issue can be caused by sensors though. From what I understand if your abs is limited stopping capabilities this is a bad idea, braking systems limitations need to be non existent and anything that slows the stopping is a bad thing.
This ^ is what I'm getting at.

Bad (or dirty) sensors are causing his ABS to not function correctly no matter what the condition of the pavement.

For example, slowly moving through a parking lot with dry ground and when you tap the brakes to stop, the ABS kicks in and you can't make a 2 mph stop.

However his first post was very unclear so we don't know.
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Old 12-01-2015, 04:49 PM
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I think Tyler46 is dam close to describing/ experiencing my problem. The abs kicks in and I CANT stop. it keeps pushing the pedal back on dry pavemnent. Yes kinda scary at times. Its a habit I have of lightly pumping my brakes as I slow down. I don't pump hard, just slow gentle pumps. I was looking in direction of disconnecting it.(Yes im part redneck..lol) How would a guy do that? Wheres fuse etc? Its snowy and wet in Wis don't feel like working on it in snow..lol THANK YOU everyone who replied. I learned from all you guys.!!Thanks.
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Old 12-01-2015, 04:58 PM
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Okay cool, haha are you 2WD or 4x4?
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:05 PM
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I think a smart person would fix the problem and leave the safety feature on.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:08 PM
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The fuse is possibly # 14 or 17, not sure about year 2000, might not be any of those. Worst case you can unplig the wires going to the unit. But for driving in snow, it is best to disable it.
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Old 12-01-2015, 05:19 PM
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Tyler..im in 2wd when this happens.
Kealel..are the wires plugged in front of master cylinder? I have a wire cluster there and I unplugged it. Seems to do the same thing.
GLH..As far as fixing it, where should I start? take out sensors and clean? I will eventually fix it..but its cold and wet out.. my " just so it works" attitude is kicked in..lol
Thanks again Guys..!
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