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Old 01-29-2014, 08:33 PM
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I'm looking into getting some winter tires for my 2006 Sport 4x4 and wanted to go as narrow as possible. Stock for the model is P255/70/R16. Would I be able, with steel rims, fit P215/70/R16. I'd like to match the overall tire dimension but love the look of those old Jeeps with the narrow tires. From what I've read the narrow'er tires do better in winter conditions.

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like this?? mine is 33x10.5x15 stock with tbar crank
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:02 PM
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^Dude, do you have to whore your truck out at every opportunity? A 255 is already narrower than a 10.50...






Original poster... I believe all stock wheels 98+ are 7". I've seen 215's and 225's on stock trucks off the showroom floor. However, will look pretty dorky on a 4x4 truck. It may be somewhat difficult to locate a tire that is narrower yet also the same height as your current set. 235/70R16 is about the narrowest I've seen but some sidewall/aspect ratio, but you're already looking at a 1" drop in diameter.
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will look pretty dorky on a 4x4 truck.
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^Dude, do you have to whore your truck out at every opportunity? A 255 is already narrower than a 10.50... Original poster... I believe all stock wheels 98+ are 7". I've seen 215's and 225's on stock trucks off the showroom floor. However, will look pretty dorky on a 4x4 truck. It may be somewhat difficult to locate a tire that is narrower yet also the same height as your current set. 235/70R16 is about the narrowest I've seen but some sidewall/aspect ratio, but you're already looking at a 1" drop in diameter.
Dude do you have to be a douchy know it all all the time.
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Old 01-29-2014, 09:36 PM
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Dude do you have to be a douchy know it all all the time.
I still bring info that actually helps the OP don't I?

Bringing more to the thread that your post did. Get off your phone and learn how to quote properly.
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I still bring info that actually helps the OP don't I? Bringing more to the thread that your post did. Get off your phone and learn how to quote properly.
How did I not quote properly? I quoted the person I was responding to. Which was you. Get off your high horse.
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I still bring info that actually helps the OP don't I? Bringing more to the thread that your post did. Get off your phone and learn how to quote properly.

what's your problem
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Just remember the smaller the tire the less load your truck can take. You could probably cram a 205 under the truck if you wanted, but most tires below 235 are considered car tires and are built to withstand car payloads not truck payloads. Also, the less tire between your wheels and the road equates to a bumpier and uncomfortable ride. Not saying rangers are particularly comfortable to ride in but personally I'd prefer not to voluntarily make it worse
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A 265/75-16 should fit well and will be more narrow. You are correct, you want more narrow tires in winter. There is no need to get more narrow wheels for them.
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Old 01-30-2014, 06:59 PM
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^Dude, do you have to whore your truck out at every opportunity? A 255 is already narrower than a 10.50...






Original poster... I believe all stock wheels 98+ are 7". I've seen 215's and 225's on stock trucks off the showroom floor. However, will look pretty dorky on a 4x4 truck. It may be somewhat difficult to locate a tire that is narrower yet also the same height as your current set. 235/70R16 is about the narrowest I've seen but some sidewall/aspect ratio, but you're already looking at a 1" drop in diameter.
Is that a one inch drop with 235/70R16? Thanks for the info. I would agree they would look dorky lol but the pricipal of narrow tires still stands. Im an all or nothing dude.

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Just remember the smaller the tire the less load your truck can take. You could probably cram a 205 under the truck if you wanted, but most tires below 235 are considered car tires and are built to withstand car payloads not truck payloads. Also, the less tire between your wheels and the road equates to a bumpier and uncomfortable ride. Not saying rangers are particularly comfortable to ride in but personally I'd prefer not to voluntarily make it worse
True. I'm aware of the reduced payload ... I'd have to look at the stats. Right now im just hauling 260lb of sand bags. Thanks for the comment.
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All or nothing what.
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Old 01-30-2014, 07:28 PM
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A 265/75-16 should fit well and will be more narrow. You are correct, you want more narrow tires in winter. There is no need to get more narrow wheels for them.
Okay, I have done the math but I'll trust that they're the same overall diameter. I found this online:

P225/50R16 91S
The 50 indicates that this tire size's sidewall height (from rim to tread) is 50% of its section width. The measurement is the tire's section height, and also referred to as the tire's series, profile or aspect ratio. The higher the number, the taller the sidewall; the lower the number, the lower the sidewall. We know that this tire size's section width is 225mm and that its section height is 50% of 225mm. By converting the 225mm to inches (225 / 25.4 = 8.86") and multiplying it by 50% (.50) we confirm that this tire size results in a tire section height of 4.43". If this tire were a P225/70R16 size, our calculation would confirm that the size would result in a section height of 6.20", approximately a 1.8-inch taller sidewall.

However, the 265 have a larger footprint than my 255

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This is what I had in mind. http://www.film.queensu.ca/cj3b/tech/tires.html
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Is that a one inch drop with 235/70R16? Thanks for the info. I would agree they would look dorky lol but the pricipal of narrow tires still stands. Im an all or nothing dude.

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True. I'm aware of the reduced payload ... I'd have to look at the stats. Right now im just hauling 260lb of sand bags. Thanks for the comment.
All the extra weight accomplishes is increased stopping distance, less MPG, wilder/crazier/longer/faster slide on ice. Also, it leverages up the front end and takes weight off the front tires. Not good for handling. The weight/balance ratio of front vs rear of vehicles was carefully and meticulously thought out and tested by people alot smarter than you or me. Also, be careful with running too much air pressure especially in oversize tires. Normal size calls for 30 pounds, at least in my 2002 Edge. 25 pounds is even better for winter. 30 psi in oversized tires is ALOT because the little Ranger is not heavy enough to press down on the tread enough. They will actually bounce like a ball. BAD MOJO. There is no need to worry about payload capacity of tires on your little Ranger. Correct size is way more important.

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Old 01-31-2014, 09:41 AM
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Original poster... I believe all stock wheels 98+ are 7". I've seen 215's and 225's on stock trucks off the showroom floor. However, will look pretty dorky on a 4x4 truck. It may be somewhat difficult to locate a tire that is narrower yet also the same height as your current set. 235/70R16 is about the narrowest I've seen but some sidewall/aspect ratio, but you're already looking at a 1" drop in diameter.

Clearly it isn't about looks, it's about best way to cut through snow. In snow rally cars go to extremely narrow tires and studs.

I plan to do the same thing next year on my 2wd, narrow tires to cut into the snow and snow tires on the back. Been around in the winter long enough to know wide ain't best.

I'm betting 215s in a high profile would be good to go.

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A 265/75-16 should fit well and will be more narrow. You are correct, you want more narrow tires in winter. There is no need to get more narrow wheels for them.
265? That's a 10 inch wide tire! Far too wide to cut into snow. I had a heck of a time with my 235s cutting in.

When I do snow tires next fall I'm going to go probably with a 215/75 with a full on snow tread on the back which would actually be taller than the 235/60. Narrow works. Applying the weight over the smaller contact patch makes for more pounds per square inch to the ground, cuts through snow easier.

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Just remember the smaller the tire the less load your truck can take. You could probably cram a 205 under the truck if you wanted, but most tires below 235 are considered car tires and are built to withstand car payloads not truck payloads. Also, the less tire between your wheels and the road equates to a bumpier and uncomfortable ride. Not saying rangers are particularly comfortable to ride in but personally I'd prefer not to voluntarily make it worse
S10s came with 205s at one time. I'm betting the Rangers in the lower line run small tires. Tire Rack lists a 215/75 for light trucks with a 1742 lb load rating/tire. Not many going to haul that much in a Ranger in the winter snow. Even a 205/75 listed has 1598 rated. With the high profile the ride won't be all that bad.

Not everything has to be monster-wide to function.
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