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Old 02-03-2014, 06:16 AM
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Your mad for no reason chill out. You also didn't get what I am getting at. Chris did, if you get a good snow tire in a decent size your fine I am not stating to get a huge wide tire. Take a min to figure stuff out before getting all bent.
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Old 02-03-2014, 06:26 AM
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You better tell all the rally car drivers they're full of BS, that wide tires work better than narrow when there's snow. Seems they all go to a narrower tire, usually studs too. But they clearly don't have a clue. To quote Bugs Bunny - What a bunch of maroons. Your getting around so well couldn't have anything to do with being a 4wd, could it? About any front wheel drive car will out do my pickup due to the light rear end. Besides, the OP said he liked the skinny tire look a bit. It also makes financial sense, narrow high profile will cost less than monster wide tires, along with taking less horsepower to run the lighter tire, which should also affect gas mileage and acceleration.
narrower tires usually do better in the snow
You cut through it and hit pavement more then floating on top of it
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Old 02-03-2014, 10:41 AM
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I have no idea what people issues are any way my 15.50" wide swampers did fine in snow. Not so great on ice but they munched snow.
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Old 02-03-2014, 12:35 PM
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It entirely depends on what you want and what kind of snow you have. If its just a road vehicle with slushy snow then yes in my experience a narrow tire will work better than a wide one. However if there is feet of hard packed snow you are trying to go overtop of then a wide will help immensely and enable you to "float" on top of the snow.
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In this case a skinnier tire would have done nothing for me in fact it would have sunk me sooner. However another two inches wider would have been beneficial and I probably would not have sunk. That snow was 1 foot of hard snow with another foot of powder underneath. Last thing a person wants in that situation is to sink in and try to get to the ground. It doesn't work lol
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Old 02-04-2014, 12:35 AM
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It entirely depends on what you want and what kind of snow you have. If its just a road vehicle with slushy snow then yes in my experience a narrow tire will work better than a wide one. However if there is feet of hard packed snow you are trying to go overtop of then a wide will help immensely and enable you to "float" on top of the snow.
Example.

In this case a skinnier tire would have done nothing for me in fact it would have sunk me sooner. However another two inches wider would have been beneficial and I probably would not have sunk. That snow was 1 foot of hard snow with another foot of powder underneath. Last thing a person wants in that situation is to sink in and try to get to the ground. It doesn't work lol
I agree.
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Old 02-04-2014, 07:44 PM
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Update: It seems the big box stores don't carry any sidewall ratio greater than 75 (for 16" rim) Costco here in Toronto had blizzaks for $139 CAD but sold out (and on rims since Dec.) I'm going to try to order them through the site instead. My main criteria was to keep 30" overall diameter with < or = to 1.5% difference in stats. The 215's are 15.7% narrower. I'm shooting for 215/85R16 I still believe narrow'er would be best for city/highway. It's late in the season but it seems the sales are happening now. Sadly I will not have them as of tomorrow so pray for me.... 20-25 inches of snow heading to Toronto. Thank-you Texas.


Here's my Truck last Saturday with just 3" snow

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgsutghgzg...%2028%20PM.jpg

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Old 02-04-2014, 10:23 PM
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Update: It seems the big box stores don't carry any sidewall ratio greater than 75 (for 16" rim) Costco here in Toronto had blizzaks for $139 CAD but sold out (and on rims since Dec.) Sadly I will not have them as of tomorrow so pray for me.... 20-25 inches of snow heading to Toronto. Thank-you Texas.
Sounds like a good deal for the tires. Toronto is expecting 2 feet of snow? We are expecting a foot of snow in NE OH with ice and freezing rain.
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Old 02-04-2014, 11:53 PM
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fourtires...

Just so you know, ANYTHING is better than the factory equipped Goodyear Wrangler RT/S. Literally anything is better than them in any condition, any time of the year.
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Old 02-05-2014, 12:29 AM
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Update: It seems the big box stores don't carry any sidewall ratio greater than 75 (for 16" rim) Costco here in Toronto had blizzaks for $139 CAD but sold out (and on rims since Dec.) I'm going to try to order them through the site instead. My main criteria was to keep 30" overall diameter with < or = to 1.5% difference in stats. The 215's are 15.7% narrower. I'm shooting for 215/85R16 I still believe narrow'er would be best for city/highway. It's late in the season but it seems the sales are happening now. Sadly I will not have them as of tomorrow so pray for me.... 20-25 inches of snow heading to Toronto. Thank-you Texas.


Here's my Truck last Saturday with just 3" snow

https://www.dropbox.com/s/cgsutghgzg...%2028%20PM.jpg

Thanks

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Also https://www.dropbox.com/s/19u5irmeoi...%2013%20PM.jpg
Firestone Winterforce are same as Blizzaks if you can find them.
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Old 02-05-2014, 07:43 PM
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fourtires...

Just so you know, ANYTHING is better than the factory equipped Goodyear Wrangler RT/S. Literally anything is better than them in any condition, any time of the year.
Lol. Some reviews on those are some of the worst. As long as they don't rip apart like those firestones back in 2000 i guess ford thinks they're okay.

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Firestone Winterforce are same as Blizzaks if you can find them.
Thanks, they're one of the fee that meets my stats. Plus having firestones on a ford would be awesome. I think I've read too much into the history of those two. The Fords and Firestones. Too bad they had issues back in 200ish.

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Sounds like a good deal for the tires. Toronto is expecting 2 feet of snow? We are expecting a foot of snow in NE OH with ice and freezing rain.
How'd did it go? What are you running for tires? I survived but it took 1.5hrs to get to work.

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It entirely depends on what you want and what kind of snow you have. If its just a road vehicle with slushy snow then yes in my experience a narrow tire will work better than a wide one. However if there is feet of hard packed snow you are trying to go overtop of then a wide will help immensely and enable you to "float" on top of the snow.
Example.

In this case a skinnier tire would have done nothing for me in fact it would have sunk me sooner. However another two inches wider would have been beneficial and I probably would not have sunk. That snow was 1 foot of hard snow with another foot of powder underneath. Last thing a person wants in that situation is to sink in and try to get to the ground. It doesn't work lol
The closest I see to that is in the lane at the back of my house. Even with these crappy wranglers I manage with 4x4. I'm more concerned with the conditions below:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/warafvltvu...%2036%20AM.jpg

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Old 02-06-2014, 01:00 AM
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Lol. Some reviews on those are some of the worst. As long as they don't rip apart like those firestones back in 2000 i guess ford thinks they're okay. ---------- Thanks, they're one of the fee that meets my stats. Plus having firestones on a ford would be awesome. I think I've read too much into the history of those two. The Fords and Firestones. Too bad they had issues back in 200ish. ---------- How'd did it go? What are you running for tires? I survived but it took 1.5hrs to get to work. ---------- ---------- The closest I see to that is in the lane at the back of my house. Even with these crappy wranglers I manage with 4x4. I'm more concerned with the conditions below: https://www.dropbox.com/s/warafvltvu...%2036%20AM.jpg
Yep. For that (like here) you need snow/ice tires, preferably with studs.
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Old 02-06-2014, 01:44 AM
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How'd did it go? What are you running for tires? I survived but it took 1.5hrs to get to work.
We got about 8 inches of snow plus blowing and drifting, which made things difficult for commuters. I replaced my OEM Continental's with All-Season Mastercraft Avenger in stock size (225 70 15), and I am satisfied with their performance.




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Old 02-06-2014, 04:00 AM
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We got about 8 inches of snow plus blowing and drifting, which made things difficult for commuters. I replaced my OEM Continental's with All-Season Mastercraft Avenger in stock size (225 70 15), and I am satisfied with their performance.
Nice truck. Are those Master craft made by Cooper?
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Old 02-06-2014, 07:40 AM
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Just remember the smaller the tire the less load your truck can take. You could probably cram a 205 under the truck if you wanted, but most tires below 235 are considered car tires and are built to withstand car payloads not truck payloads. Also, the less tire between your wheels and the road equates to a bumpier and uncomfortable ride. Not saying rangers are particularly comfortable to ride in but personally I'd prefer not to voluntarily make it worse

The Ranger is 3300 lbs at best and with 1200 lbs of payload that's 4500 lbs. That is 1150 lbs per wheel and any passenger car 14" or bigger will handle it easily.
As far as thinner tires for winter.....that makes no sense whatsoever unless the OP is dying to try out his AAA roadside assistance coverage.
LT tires on a Ranger are completely unnecessary and make for a bad ride and unnecessary stress on the suspension.
225/70/14 tires will handle 1600 lbs per tire. Guess what....1995 F150 regular cabs were fitted with P225/70/15s from the factory.
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Old 02-06-2014, 09:00 AM
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The Ranger is 3300 lbs at best and with 1200 lbs of payload that's 4500 lbs. That is 1150 lbs per wheel and any passenger car 14" or bigger will handle it easily.
As far as thinner tires for winter.....that makes no sense whatsoever unless the OP is dying to try out his AAA roadside assistance coverage.
LT tires on a Ranger are completely unnecessary and make for a bad ride and unnecessary stress on the suspension.
225/70/14 tires will handle 1600 lbs per tire. Guess what....1995 F150 regular cabs were fitted with P225/70/15s from the factory.
And the current f150's are sold with P275/60r18's. Its nothing special as long as the load rating is there the tires will work. I prefer LT tires for sidewall construction and never really noticed a difference between the p's and e's. Put the pressure were it belongs and not max sidewall and they work fine.

As for the thinner tire things its been discussed a million times and alm I can say is grt a snow tire and either way it will do better.
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