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Old 03-30-2011, 08:16 AM
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Default Helper springs recomend

Alright, so my question is what recomendations do you guys have for helper springs?

I had my truck leveled 2 days after I got it and really do not like the look of a saggy rear end. Though most of the time I do not carry a load in the bed it seems like the times I do it is never "light."

I am looking at a set of Helwig EZ-990 but am not sure.

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Old 03-30-2011, 08:42 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

swap out the leaf pack for a expo leaf pack from ur local junkyard
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:34 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

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swap out the leaf pack for a expo leaf pack from ur local junkyard
Doesn't that add lift to the rear end? If so, even though I do want more lift in my trucl I don't want to crank the t-bars any more for fear of excessive wear.
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:36 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

yeah itll add more lift in the back ...like 2 inches or less....

if u dont want to crank t bars anymore (u shouldnt need to) u can get a spindle lift
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:39 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

Alright I am going to play stupid. If I raise the rear of the truck 2" or so why should I not need to crank the t-bars more? I want the truck to sit level not look like it is stock with the rake to the front as though it where stock.
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:43 AM
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until u see what effect it has on your particular truck u wont know and if u must have it level then u will need to do something for the front. i myself like a little rake, i did my tbars to have a little less but still a functional amount.

scratch previous spindle lift comment (for 2wds only) i have no idea how to help you, maybe after putting the new spring pack in, remove the rear blocks?
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:43 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

Helper springs are useless I would stack some expo leafs with stock ones and remove the factory blocks should be level and will improve load handling
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:44 AM
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u could also do shackles to lift it up in the back but i wouldnt do that if the back end is already sagging
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Old 03-30-2011, 10:55 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

Back end does not sag as is. Only when it has a heavy load in the bed. I guess it is an odd question considering I only have a heavy load in it every once in a while.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:03 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

with a leveled truck it will always look like its sagging with a load on it, unless you add 3/4 ton springs that dont compress at all you will always sag with a load, thats how the leaf springs work. as the more they compress the stiffer they get. you cant have your cake and eat it too unless you want the rear of your truck to be so stiff it doesnt compress at all. helper springs are nice but in order for them to work properly the rear has to be allowed to compress enough to load the helpers and then you will appear to be "sagging" anyways.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:08 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

Bingo!... lol patrick nailed it right on the head. If your concerned with it sagging to much then go to your local autoparts store. Back by the trailer hitches they should have some helper springs. i think theyre 30 a pair. I bought 2 pairs... one for the front of the leafs and one for the rear of the leafs. It says it added 1500 pounds. That should be more than enough for a ranger.
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Old 03-30-2011, 11:24 AM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

thats the exact reason i havent leveled my F-150. i pull a large travel trailer with it and it would appear to be sagging badly and the headlights would point to the sky if it was leveled. ford adds rake to their trucks from the factory for a reason, its to compensate for the rear suspension compression when loaded.
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Old 03-30-2011, 12:35 PM
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Default Re: Helper springs recomend

Thanks gents appreciate the answers. Guess I will just leave it as is and deal with sag when loaded.
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