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Old 11-10-2010, 06:14 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

I did both rear hangers and shackles 2 weeks ago. I took the bed off and boy it made it so easy to work on them. I did put a BL on last year and fought with the bed bolts then, so this time they came right out. I would recommend buying 2 torx bits so when you break one you have another one handy. Also maybe start spraying them with PB blaster now.
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Old 11-12-2010, 09:12 AM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

I started mine last night. Four and a half hours later I have all the pieces of the old (broken) one off, and that's it. Turns out that the replacement ones that were given to me by the guy I bought it from are unusable as is. One is missing the nut that holds the shackle to the bracket, and the other one had the nut cross-threaded so badly that about six threads (fine-threaded replacement bolt in it already) broke off in the nut. I found a similarly threaded nut, but the bolt is so rusty from sitting on a shelf that the nut won't go on, and I couldn't get it apart to clean the threads properly.

So I've gone from a busted shackle rubbing on the bottom of my bed to the end of the leaf spring rubbing on my bed. And I'm going to have to spend the $50 per side to buy the replacements new.

Yippee.
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Old 11-13-2010, 07:44 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

got the new one installed, no problem. And I ended up making a good one out of the parts of the two the guy gave me and the leftover bolts from the kit I bought, so both my shackles are installed. Only took about 9 hours total. I'm glad it's done, but I'm really not impressed about the whole thing. I could have done it faster, and I could have just not broken them to begin with. Oh well. I also found out that I've gotta do shocks soon too, since my driver's side shock is leaking. Yippee.
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Old 11-13-2010, 10:17 PM
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got the new one installed, no problem. And I ended up making a good one out of the parts of the two the guy gave me and the leftover bolts from the kit I bought, so both my shackles are installed. Only took about 9 hours total. I'm glad it's done, but I'm really not impressed about the whole thing. I could have done it faster, and I could have just not broken them to begin with. Oh well. I also found out that I've gotta do shocks soon too, since my driver's side shock is leaking. Yippee.
wait you put on used stuff? thats just like re-using u-bolts and hardware...big NO.
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Old 11-13-2010, 10:24 PM
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wait you put on used stuff? thats just like re-using u-bolts and hardware...big NO.
As long as the bolts arent corroded they are ok. Ubolts should never be reused.
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Old 11-14-2010, 12:19 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

yeah, the "used" ones were supposedly only installed on a vehicle for a month or two, and they look to be in just about as good-as-new shape as the new one, except that the "used" ones aren't all glossy.

Used parts or not, the one that wasn't off-the-shelf new is still a pantload better than the broken one that was on there. At least it's not gonna crap out on me anytime soon, and if it does in a couple years, then I still got my money's worth out of it (it was free).

I agree that re-using certain parts is a no-no, I used to sell car parts for a living, and I know from warranty issues, and hearing war stories from customers that certain things are not to be re-used, unless you like doing things more than once and/or risking your life. Like certain half-shaft (CV shaft) nuts that are deformed from the factory (they looked squished so the opening is an oval), so that when you install them the deformation makes them squeeze the shaft harder (tee hee!), and once they're removed, they lose they're ability to lock onto the threads. You don't re-use those. That's a no-no.
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Old 11-14-2010, 08:51 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

well, i now have all new leaf spring hangers. i did take the bed off and am very glad that i did. all six torx bolts in the bed came out fine.

i ended up unbolting the recently installed rear hangers and u bolts and removed the entire spring so i could pound the front spring mounting bolts out in my vise.

what is this about not reusing U-bolts? i assume you mean the bolts that hold the axle to the spring? I did reuse. will they fail or loosen up quickly?

not too big a deal as i plan on removing the bed soon again to do a little rust preventitive maintenance. the frame looked very good, but all three crossmembers have quite a bit of rust. i think 2 of them are salvageable, but the middle one is pretty tired and should be replaced. can these cross members be found at a reasonable price? i also ordered a new fuel filler hose as mine has cracking at the tank end. ford wants over three bills!!!! what the hell are they thinking? bought it for 35 bucks, free shipping.

a bit of advice for anyone out there needing to replace the spring hangers.

take off the bed. it is ridiculously easy and makes the rest of the job very easy. also, if your spring hangers rotted, there will likely be other things to check. removing the bed makes it so much easier.

same advice goes for replacing a fuel pump. lifting the bed is easier than dropping the tank, IMO. I haven't actually dropped one on a ranger, but, i've done it on other vehicles and it was a PITA.

i think it mostly comes down to working from above beats laying on your back eating rust chips or getting them in your eyes.

the only way i could see maybe doing it without lifting the bed off is if you have a garage with a lift, but, even then, i think i's still pull the bed.
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Old 11-14-2010, 10:47 PM
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yeah, the "used" ones were supposedly only installed on a vehicle for a month or two, and they look to be in just about as good-as-new shape as the new one, except that the "used" ones aren't all glossy.

Used parts or not, the one that wasn't off-the-shelf new is still a pantload better than the broken one that was on there. At least it's not gonna crap out on me anytime soon, and if it does in a couple years, then I still got my money's worth out of it (it was free).

I agree that re-using certain parts is a no-no, I used to sell car parts for a living, and I know from warranty issues, and hearing war stories from customers that certain things are not to be re-used, unless you like doing things more than once and/or risking your life. Like certain half-shaft (CV shaft) nuts that are deformed from the factory (they looked squished so the opening is an oval), so that when you install them the deformation makes them squeeze the shaft harder (tee hee!), and once they're removed, they lose they're ability to lock onto the threads. You don't re-use those. That's a no-no.
well thats good then. as long as its fixed!
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Old 11-15-2010, 09:11 AM
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the only way i could see maybe doing it without lifting the bed off is if you have a garage with a lift, but, even then, i think i's still pull the bed.
I did mine on my back in my driveway. Wasn't too bad, but then again, I'm used to doing things that way. Definitely got more than my share of rust in the face, up the sleeves, in the hair, etc. Part of the "fun" of working on old cars for me.
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Old 11-15-2010, 01:38 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

you can keep that type of fun, sixshooter. i've had more than my share, including a trip to the eye doctor to dig a rust chip out of my cornea once.

i guess a busted off torx bolt might make bed removal less than fun. maybe i was lucky in that my truck has had a liner for a while which may have helped with torx bolts not rusting. they were galvanized bolts though, so rust souldn't be much trouble with them.
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Old 11-15-2010, 04:29 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

I guess taking the bed off would be advisable for accessing the front shackles, but for what I was doing, it looked more like more-things-I-might-break rather than being any benefit. And it turned out that it took me a total of three days to get it done, during which I actually had to drive it around in the middle of the repair (to school, to buy parts and home - about 30 miles - with the spring banging on the bed - NOT advisable). So having the bed off would not have been good for me.

The repair was actually an experience that takes about a ten minute story to completely appreciate. It should have been "yeah, I had a bad shackle, so I fixed them both, just to be safe" but it was more like "once upon a time I loaded too much gravel in my truck ... (add 10 minutes) ... and now it's sitting level again."

Bah. It's fixed.
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Old 11-23-2010, 01:34 PM
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ranger pete: where did you get your replacement parts for this? Ford?
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Old 11-23-2010, 02:52 PM
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Default Re: busted leaf spring shackle.

wow $50 seems high on the brackets. I got them from ford and they were only $32 each.
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Old 11-23-2010, 04:59 PM
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to clarify: the $50 price tag was for bracket AND shackle. Doorman sells them separately, and I needed both to fix my truck. And since I had the other one for free, I actually did BOTH shackles for under $60.
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Old 11-24-2010, 01:27 PM
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ranger pete: where did you get your replacement parts for this? Ford?
nope. NAPA. about 60 bucks for the pair.
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