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Old 10-25-2010, 02:48 PM
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2010 Ranger XL, 2.3 five speed. The ATV weighs 600 pounds. What would you do? The back is down to the helper springs and the front is up. Should I attempt to have Ford address the problem? I can't imagine they would do anything. Is there a fix out there? I intend to carry this size load quite often especially in the winetr when I'll ad 400 pounds to give the rear tires weight. Suggestions? Dave[IMG][/IMG]
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:10 PM
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Get some springs from at least a 4.0 4x4. We just put a full lenght BDS add-a-leaf in my dads 2wd with the 2.3, It raised the back a solid 2" and can carry alot more weight, I don't think as much as I can in my 4x4, but alot more than stock.

The add-a-leaf was for a 97 Jeep Wrangler.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:30 PM
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Interesting that you mention the 4.0 springs. When I asked the dealer about this he said the springs were the same in both vehicles. Pooleo8...can you give me the particulars on which spring your dad ordered please? Dave
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:43 PM
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I think I would just get a trailer for the atv. For the winter I think 200 or 300 lbs would be plenty for improved traction.
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:48 PM
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air shocks or a atv trailer
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Old 10-25-2010, 04:50 PM
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I think I would go with a trailer as well, but a beefed up rear end would work as well, but maybe not as good. if you must carry the 4 wheeler in the back stronger shocks and springs will be needed, you my blow out the stock ones with a good bump.
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Old 10-25-2010, 05:02 PM
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The spring he got from a guy off from Craigs List. They were for his Jeep Wrangler he had said. It was the same width and had the same center hole as the ranger. It was a full lenght add-a-leaf and was for a 2" lift. By full lenght I mean about 2.5' long, not the little 10" add-a-leafs

I mention the 4.0 spring because on mine it comes with 3 leafs and 1 overload.

On my dads 2.3 it only has 2 leafs and no overloads.

From perch to perch it will be a bolt in installation.

I think the dealer probably said not the same because "textbook" says no. But mechanically it will fit.

Also, on my dads 2wd he did not have the factory lift blocks as I do on my 4.0 4x4.
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Old 10-26-2010, 02:52 AM
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I find it amazing that here we have one of the most common small trucks on the road and we are using springs from less common vehicles to beef up the rear suspension! No, the answer to my problem is not to buy a trailer. This is supposed to be a "half ton" truck and I can't even get near that in it when the springs in the rear sag. There has to be a company making rear springs for the Ranger. Possibly someone else can suggest a solution. Dave
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Old 10-26-2010, 05:57 AM
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What is your current spring pack, as in how many leaf ( i count the main leaf as 1 ) do you have?

Also, do you think in your opinion that the springs have gone flat or gotten weak...?

A good set of springs should have a good 8" of curve. As if you put a level accross the two eyelets and measured from center down.

Here is tuff country website. Scroll down to ranger 4wd. I understand it list it for 83-97, but keep in mind that this is because 98 started the "wishbone" suspension.

Rear leafs will be the same.

http://www.tuffcountry.com/products/add-a-leafs.html

Here is a set for $45 Offer ends 10/28/2010 http://www.suspensionconnection.com/...ml?id=PJGkVNYT
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Old 10-26-2010, 09:37 AM
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There are two long ones and one shorter "helper" at the bottom of the pack. I checked all that they had on the lot and the 4.0 liter trucks have springs which look the same. Thanks for your efforts. I will try the sites you sent. Dave....PS - I don't believe that I ever had 8 inches of lift.
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:35 PM
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Interesting that you mention the 4.0 springs. When I asked the dealer about this he said the springs were the same in both vehicles. Pooleo8...can you give me the particulars on which spring your dad ordered please? Dave
Not thinking they are as I put 800# in the bed of my Ranger and it didn't budge.
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I find it amazing that here we have one of the most common small trucks on the road and we are using springs from less common vehicles to beef up the rear suspension! No, the answer to my problem is not to buy a trailer. This is supposed to be a "half ton" truck and I can't even get near that in it when the springs in the rear sag. There has to be a company making rear springs for the Ranger. Possibly someone else can suggest a solution. Dave
who told you that? My 07' F150's aren't even half ton trucks. . .
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Old 10-26-2010, 03:38 PM
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get an ad-a-leaf
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:13 PM
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The Ranger is rated as being able to carry 500 pounds with the standard springs (1250 pound rating per spring) and 1000 pound with the heavy duty springs (1750 pound rating per spring).

http://www.generalspringkc.com/index...parent=68&pg=1
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Old 10-26-2010, 08:53 PM
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Dantforth - I drew on this pic here to further my explanation of what I said about the 8"

I didn't mean 8" of lift or that this diagram is suppose to supply 8" of lift.

Just that this should be the normal amount of curvature in the spring from an unloaded hanging rear end.

I guess maybe this should be expressed in degrees and angles, but I havn't a clue...LOL!

From sgtsandmans posted site, you should look for the 4/1 leaf pack in the boneyard. These should generally be on 4x4 4.0 rangers. This will give you your carry capacity.

As I understand you said that you have 2 long ones and the helper,(2/1) leaf pack. That is why your so squatty.

Now I don't know your expectation on wether to buy used parts or new. In my experience the hi-ryder S10's come with a very strong leaf pack, about 13" or so from my "explanation" And I personally have mixed a few springs from that pack into my lifted ranger. I have 10 leafs in my truck. Mainly because stock spring went flat and lost its factory "lift". 4 of those leafs are overloads, and it rides like a tank!

Let us know what you decided to do.
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