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Old 11-04-2016, 03:55 PM
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Ok yeah that just worked. Ok well here is what I have to say about that. First of all you are missing a LOT of parts. You won't be able to even use half of that stuff with the parts you have listed there. Second you don't need 6" fenders in the front. I would recommend baja fiber for the glass. Much much cheaper than Fiberwerx for the same stuff. Also much quicker turnaround. Third that is a pretty small shock lol. 8" stroke really isn't very big but I guess for what you want it may work. Fourth I would check every part sdhq offers and see what the price is to order direct from the company. Sdhq is a good company but they are usually expensive. Also looks like they quoted you 700 something for a deaver pack. Which pack is it? I'm assuming f31 but if it's g50 then that's a good deal


Also I will say I always deal with the company directly. They know their products best and will give you the best advice as to what you need. Sdhq will throw a list at tell you this is what you need but from my experience it is usually incomplete.
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:44 AM
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Yeah, I also noticed that they listed 3 tube bypass for the rear. Lol

8" is pretty small for the front.
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Old 11-05-2016, 10:53 AM
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Yeah 8" for a 16" travel kit? I'm not buying it

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Old 11-05-2016, 03:43 PM
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Thanks guys! I had to be sure you guys saw that because it looked like things could be missing or way over priced. They made it sound like with all that, all I would need is for the shop to fabricate install and roll out. Seems like this project is going to take longer than I anticipated. Good thing cause I'd rather do it right than jumping the gun because of excitement.
You guys are definitely helping me, but please I may ask some "dumb" questions so bare with me. I'm still researching all the parts in depth to understand and learn what you guys say haha
I'm definitely going to take the advice and buy the parts individually. It may give me a better understanding for everything and how they function.
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:00 PM
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Some 4.56 for the gears will getcha going. Also just got the 4x4 kit from Brandon and I can't wait to install it.. It looks great. Highly recommend him.


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Old 11-05-2016, 04:11 PM
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Watch some videos on SLA-type front suspension and "wishbone" style. That would give you a good understanding.

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Some 4.56 for the gears will getcha going. Also just got the 4x4 kit from Brandon and I can't wait to install it.. It looks great. Highly recommend him. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
Honestly I wouldn't recommend 4.56 for a Duratec on 35's. If you do the math 35's on 5.13 is the same as 225/70/15 on 4.10's. Rpm for my Automatic was about 3,000 at 80mph.

4.88 would be just fine, if the OP wants more torque I'd say 5.13.

Yeah, Brandon at BTF is a really cool guy, talked to him on the phone several times, I just never got a chance to go to his shop which is not very far from me, maybe 10 miles.

It wasn't too long ago that he started making that 4x4 kit. Saw a thread on DR of an amazing 4x4 Sport Trac build. I'm thinking about buying a 4x4 Sport Trac and installing his kit myself. Should only be a few grand for the parts.
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Old 11-05-2016, 04:31 PM
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Yea that's how I found out about it was on here and DR. Didn't know he made it for the sport trac tho sounds awesome.

Anyway yea listen to Tyler I think he knows what he's doing haha


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Old 11-05-2016, 04:41 PM
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Well for the most part, lol. I've done so much research and I hang out with the prerunner crowd, I've seen everything.

Well the Sport Tracs and Explorers share the same front end as 4x4 Ranger front ends, so the kits are universal amongst them all.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:08 AM
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Tyler, you da man!
I would have never figured there would be videos on suspensions, especially all the animation ones that color code each component so you can see the individual functions. This is helping for a way better understanding than just reading.

I know my front ends' wheel base is going to widen, how am i going to widen the rear end?
I would figure having to get a mustang or f-150 axle to compensate for the extra 8" total in front.... Or is there a way to widen the stock axle? Reason for the question, is because if mine could work, i would love to just beef it up with better parts and changing gears.
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Old 11-07-2016, 08:43 AM
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Really the only axle that would be close to that would be a full size 9". That's what I'm planning on running with my 4 link set up. I just finished an explorer axle swap in the meantime so I that I have something a little better for now. That's an inch wider. And you could use wheel spacers if you really wanted although I wouldn't recommend it. An explorer axle swap is easy but the ford 9" swap is not lol
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Old 11-07-2016, 09:19 AM
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Yeah, the Ford 9" that comes out of the econolines are the widest. The reason people use 9" axles are because of how easy they are to work with, and they're better for a 4 link setup over an 8.8.

However an F150 8.8 would work just fine. Mustang 8.8 probably not
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:26 PM
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Ok, so i have decided to go with the BTF Basic Long Travel Kit along with all the necessary goodies they could get me:
Maxtrac Lift Spindles
King Coil-over shocks
King Bumpstops
Shock Tower Kit
Limit Straps

For the rear end, i decided to go with F-150 8.8 and with my research should bolt right up with some new spring mounts. Bolt pattern will need to be fabricated too, if i understood correctly. I honestly do not mind the rear end being a little more narrow than the front... (so maybe wider rear end is unecessary, instead just change the gear ratio??)
I cant decide which to go with, Countileaver Kit ($1200) or 2.5x10 triple bypass ($1300) or smooth body shocks ($700), what do you think on that?
I will also be getting Deaver Leaf springs from him, i said id rather get them from him even if i can save money calling Deaver direct. Plus the bushings.

Brandon is cool as shit! lol very helpful and explained the parts in detail!

So from my understanding, with the exception of fabrication and some nuts and bolts, this is all I will be needing to get my project in the shop and on the road.... Please knock me down if there are some other key things i missed...
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:55 PM
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Brandon's kit will accept a stock or basic lift spindle but I highly recommend you go with his custom upright with at least D35 hubs. You're really pushing the stock bearings for 35's. The $975 extra is well worth it. Especially since the Maxtrac spindles are $324 to begin with

You don't want a wheel to fly off on you. It sucks. I've done it 3 times.
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Old 11-07-2016, 02:56 PM
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I would go with the explorer 8.8 if you are going to use an 8.8. Much easier and cheaper install. If you're going for a full size axle why not use a 9"? You are going to spend the same amount of money swapping a f150 8.8 as putting a 9 in so why waste your money on a weaker axle? Also I would say unless you are going with a bed cage then use smooth bodies. You won't gain anything with a triple bypass with smaller shocks like that

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Old 11-07-2016, 02:59 PM
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Also - the Cantilever kit just re-mounts where the shocks function on the truck (underneath the bed) thus eliminating the need for you to cut up the bed and mount a bed cage for whatever shocks you choose. It's a cleaner design IMO and more functional to still use the truck "as a truck"

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I would go with the explorer 8.8 if you are going to use an 8.8. Much easier and cheaper install. If you're going for a full size axle why not use a 9"? You are going to spend the same amount of money swapping a f150 8.8 as putting a 9 in so why waste your money on a weaker axle? Also I would say unless you are going with a bed cage then use smooth bodies. You won't gain anything with a triple bypass with smaller shocks like that Sent from my SM-G930P using Tapatalk
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