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Old 03-04-2014, 08:50 PM
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I have an 89 ranger 2.3 l 4cyl 2wd with 15" rims from an 02 ranger. I want to put a lift in it so I can put some mud grips on it and use it for hauling trailers. Body lifts are the same price as suspension lifts for my truck but the biggest suspension lift I can get is 2.5" for the front and 2" for rear. With a body lift I can get a three inch. How hard are body lifts? I've already put new shocks in it. I'm a mechanic in training my dads a retired aircraft mechanic. So engine work is our forte not suspension. My other question is can I put a 2" block lift and a shackle extender at the same time? Thanks for all the suggestions
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Old 03-05-2014, 07:37 PM
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I guess it depends what you want. Body lifts are likely the easiest because it just puts a bunch of hockey pucks between the body and the frame. It's better for handling because they don't mess with alignment angles and it keeps the center of gravity lower because the frame still sits at stock height.

The only real reason for a suspension lift is not for fitting tires but serious offroading so you don't get high centered on your transmission and so you can get your bumpers high enough to get over stuff. For your use--getting bigger tires on it--a suspension lift is likely overkill.

One thing to ask though is how big tires you really need. If you put on much larger tires, you'll need to change the gear ratios in your rear differential or you won't be towing much.
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Old 03-05-2014, 07:49 PM
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I guess it depends what you want. Body lifts are likely the easiest because it just puts a bunch of hockey pucks between the body and the frame. It's better for handling because they don't mess with alignment angles and it keeps the center of gravity lower because the frame still sits at stock height.

The only real reason for a suspension lift is not for fitting tires but serious offroading so you don't get high centered on your transmission and so you can get your bumpers high enough to get over stuff. For your use--getting bigger tires on it--a suspension lift is likely overkill.

One thing to ask though is how big tires you really need. If you put on much larger tires, you'll need to change the gear ratios in your rear differential or you won't be towing much.
Body lift kits don't use hockey pucks. Inbred rednecks do.

Body lifts have brackets to lift your bumpers too.
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Old 03-05-2014, 08:01 PM
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I guess it depends what you want. Body lifts are likely the easiest because it just puts a bunch of hockey pucks between the body and the frame. It's better for handling because they don't mess with alignment angles and it keeps the center of gravity lower because the frame still sits at stock height. The only real reason for a suspension lift is not for fitting tires but serious offroading so you don't get high centered on your transmission and so you can get your bumpers high enough to get over stuff. For your use--getting bigger tires on it--a suspension lift is likely overkill. One thing to ask though is how big tires you really need. If you put on much larger tires, you'll need to change the gear ratios in your rear differential or you won't be towing much.
Maybe you shouldn't post about shit you dont know.
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Old 03-05-2014, 11:17 PM
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Truth is even though this truck is only two wheel drive I go mudding allot. And I just want to be able to put some 235/75/15s on it. But I want some good at tires. Not crappy highway treat like I have. Anyways. I keep seeing all these posts about torsion cranks?? Is that possible for a 2wd and how difficult is it?
Ps. Thanks for the input guys. I'm still new to the forum so I appreciate all the help.
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Old 03-06-2014, 08:55 AM
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Oh yeah, I meant "hockey pucks" as a descriptive metaphor, to try to suggest that what makes up a body lift are just spacers that go in there between the frame and body. Sorry for the confusion, I should have been more clear. I certainly wouldn't recommend using hockey pucks!

"Torsion cranks" refers to 2wd models that have torsion bars on the front instead of coil springs, such as Edge models that were introduced in 2001.
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Old 03-06-2014, 09:19 AM
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I keep seeing all these posts about torsion cranks?? Is that possible for a 2wd and how difficult is it?
Your 1989 doesn't have torsion bars.

That's strictly an 'issue' for 4wd & a few 'lucky' 2wd's that are 1998 & newer.
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Old 03-06-2014, 11:19 AM
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Okay thanks for clearing that up. So body lifts aren't too difficult to put in? I want to do both but suspension seems cheaper. I can get a 2.5" front and 2" rear lift for like 130 bucks, and then a 3" boy lift for 150... Rear end gearing??? New to that. How difficult is it to change your ratios for towing?
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Old 03-06-2014, 03:57 PM
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I'm no expert on your model Ranger, but 235/75/15 tires probably aren't so huge and might be just fine with the gear ratio you have and the 2/2.5 inch suspension lift you're contemplating. I went up to that size tire on a 2007 4x2 with a 4 cyl and 5 speed and they were great. They changed the gearing a little (higher) so it was a bit slower off the line and the speedo was off a few mph at highway speed, but they made up for it in usability and looks. But that truck came with 15" rims and 225/70/15 tires which could be larger than the stock size tire size on yours, so it might not have been such a big step up. Hopefully someone will chime in on this thread who knows your model better.

I don't know if you've done this, but you can get a rough idea of how large a change you're contemplating, and even if you're lifting high enough, with a tire size calculator like this one.

Before you put on that suspension lift kit, you might want to double check if you'll need new shocks too.
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:15 PM
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Got brand new shocks in it. My truck came originally stock with 14"s on it. So its already one step up. I want some bigger tires later for swamping but I'm gonna good rims first. Put a/t tires on the sport rims and swampers on the stocks. Thanks for the input. So how hard are body lifts? Cause I want both. Just don't know what's worth the effort. I'm used to driving my dads fx4 f-150 so I'd like to be up there in height!
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:48 PM
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So how hard are body lifts? Cause I want both. Just don't know what's worth the effort. I'm used to driving my dads fx4 f-150 so I'd like to be up there in height!
Please review this 'sticky': Body Lift 3 Tech Info Extravaganza

General ideas would still apply to your setup.
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Old 03-07-2014, 12:57 PM
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Sounds like a body lift would work for you. There's another option too, fiberglass.
http://fiberwerx.com/listing/88-92-ford-ranger-fenders/
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Old 03-08-2014, 06:13 AM
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Oh yeah, I meant to say its a good idea to doublecheck the suspension lift kits that you're considering to see if they require different (longer) shocks.
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Old 03-08-2014, 01:46 PM
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Suspension lift comes with shock extenders.... So I think I'm covered
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Old 03-08-2014, 04:02 PM
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Found you a bigger than 2.5" lift, how about 4" or 6" complete
http://www.offroadwarehouse.com/prod...413/sfID3/1401
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