Questions about 99 SAS

99Ranger4 · #1 09-21-2011, 02:33 PM

Im thinking of doing a sas and I'm new to the whole process
i found a D44 with radius arms and trac bar and mounts with this work?

also do i have to swap the rear axle i have a 8.8 open w/ 4.10s

what else will i need, such as a steering gear box, mounts for the arms, and how will i get the steering to hook up correctly from column to box.

also do i need to swith transfer cases and the front drive shaft?!

I'm very mechanical but the whole SAS is very new to me

thanks!

99Ranger4 · #2 09-21-2011, 03:07 PM

bump please

2004xlmiller · #3 09-21-2011, 03:08 PM

its only been a half hour.. someone will know what you need. i dont know much about it, but theres no reason you cant keep the 8.8. might need new gears if you run bigger tires.

Clutch · #4 09-21-2011, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by 99Ranger4

Im thinking of doing a sas and I'm new to the whole process
i found a D44 with radius arms and trac bar and mounts with this work?

What is it out of? Really only two different chassis' that axle could be out of.

Early Bronco (Close to ranger width) or
76-79 F100/F150/Fullsize Bronco (Fullwidth)

Do you know how wide it is? The width will really determine your next question

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Originally Posted by 99Ranger4

also do i have to swap the rear axle i have a 8.8 open w/ 4.10s

If it is a fullwidth D44 from a F100/150/bronco then, yes you will have to swap the rear axle as that front axle will be alot wider then the 8.8 you currently have.

If it is a Early Bronco D44 then you can run that rear axle but you will have mismatched lug patterns. There are ways to get around this but I would recommend an explorer 8.8 with aftermarket shafts to convert to 5x5.5 to match the front.

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Originally Posted by 99Ranger4

what else will i need, such as a steering gear box, mounts for the arms, and how will i get the steering to hook up correctly from column to box.

There are alot of popular steering boxes used on rangers for SAS's.

Toyota IFS, FJ60, 97 and down Ranger steering box, Scout 2, ect. It all depends on what you have available and what your axle placement calls for. Most people make a hybrid steering shaft out of the stock shaft and the lower half of the steering box donor vehicles shaft.

As far as suspension is concerned. To run radius arms, you would need all the mounts for the arms as well as all the panhard bar mounts, custom brake lines, ect.

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Originally Posted by 99Ranger4

also do i need to swith transfer cases and the front drive shaft?!

I'm very mechanical but the whole SAS is very new to me

thanks!

You can run your stock Transfer case but will more then likely need a different front driveshaft to mate up to the front axle due to joint and or length differences.

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What tire size are you planning on running?

99Ranger4 · #5 09-21-2011, 07:45 PM

wow, that cleared up a alot thanks
and I was gonna do an early bronco so the widths would be really close.
also what transfer would you recommend?
I was gonna run 35s or 36s

I found these janes duff early coil bucks and shock mounts would they work?
http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/dualshock.html

and what about the radius arm and track bar mounts?

Clutch · #6 09-21-2011, 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by 99Ranger4

wow, that cleared up a alot thanks
and I was gonna do an early bronco so the widths would be really close.
also what transfer would you recommend?
I was gonna run 35s or 36s

I found these janes duff early coil bucks and shock mounts would they work?
http://www.jamesduff.com/broncoII/dualshock.html

and what about the radius arm and track bar mounts?

The stock transfer case is fine. The only other option you have is an Atlas 2, Im using one in my build but they do cost around $2300.

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I would build your own coil mounts.

99Ranger4 · #7 09-22-2011, 10:21 AM

so there isn't a manual transfer case I could use? instead of the electric one?

Clutch · #8 09-22-2011, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by 99Ranger4

so there isn't a manual transfer case I could use? instead of the electric one?

You have a 1354E (electric), 90-97 Rangers as well as 91-95 Explorers had the 1354M (manual) as an optional Tcase. It is the exact same as the 1354E just without the electric motor. So it will mate to your drivetrain with no problems. They are getting harder to find but they are out there. I picked one up for $100 from a local junkyard and $30 for the shift linkage from a member off another board. The early 1354M's did have a different CV front output then the circle style flange that your truck has, but if your doing an SAS and changing the front driveshaft anyways its not a big deal.

Your truck will already have the hole in the floor it just has a blank panel over it. I actually have a factory 5 speed plate that has the built in hole and boot for a manual tcase that Id be willing to sell.

If you get really lucky you might be able to find an early FX4/Lvl2 Tcase which is also a 1354M, but was rare and only offered for 1 or 2 years IIRC when those trucks first were sold.

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Another thing to be aware of is that there was also a 1350M used in 1st and 2nd Gen rangers and Bronco2's. This is not the case you want. It has a slip yoke front output and is not desireable. The front slip yoke is the easiest way to tell one from a 1354. Don't be fooled by someone trying to pass off a 1350M as the better 1354M.

1350 Slipyoke style case on the left and a 1354 with fixed output with older style CV yoke on the right.