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View Poll Results: If you would like to contribute to the chatroom, how much would you put in?
$1 - $10 9 75.00%
$11 - $20 3 25.00%
$21 - $30 0 0%
$30+ 0 0%
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Old 11-05-2009, 12:45 PM
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Candidly, adding another (I won't mention inefficient, browser-based, java applet) chat method will certainly inconvenience folks (myself included) to the point of non-participation, as well.
I'm not sure how having a built in chat that is less convenient then having an external one? There are far less steps involved, less steps to remember, less steps to executive. And then once you are there, the external one has 0 relation to the forum, 0 relation between the usernames in the chat and the usernames on the forum. The built in chat is exactly the opposite.

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The internet already has a "chat" standard, and it is implemented as IRC. There are clients for just about any computer platform. Then, there are peer-to-peer messaging clients (such as AIM, Yahoo, MSN, etc) that have also wedged in their own brand of "chat" for "multi-person" conversations.
IRC is not an option due to the risk associated with running them most large providers strictly prohibit them, including the one FRF is on. I'm aware of AIM/Yahoo/MSN, etc., which is why I agree that AIM is a legitimate alternative.

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I don't know what kind of horsepower you have on the server hosting this forum, but I can tell you that the IRC server software is fairly lightweight. There are methodologies (via Java applets, usually) that will allow a web browser to connect to an IRC chat server, and that would then allow a casual user to connect from the forum web pages. ...or, anyone could connect to the IRC server using a standard, available, free IRC client program.
As mentioned above, IRC is prohibited on this network.

The reason this has been suggested isn't due to the lack of chat software out there, it's due to the lack of integration of the chat software out there. AIM, Yahoo, MSN, IRC, they all are 100% separated from the forum. These chat clients can not be embedded into the forum, and the usernames will not be related to the forum usernames. The suggested chat programs will address all of these issues, and will be 100% fully integrated with the forum.

I'm not trying to force this on the forum, I just want to make sure it's understand that this has nothing to do with lack of awareness of the popular IM programs, it has to do with integrating those chatting capabilities into the forum.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:00 PM
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I'm not trying to force this on the forum, I just want to make sure it's understand that this has nothing to do with lack of awareness of the popular IM programs, it has to do with integrating those chatting capabilities into the forum.
..and, I'm not trying to force you or anyone else to do anything, one way or the other... merely pointing out that I'm less than likely to ever use it.

didn't know your web hosting company wouldn't allow IRC. I can tell you, from a software architect point-of-view, that IRC takes considerably less bandwidth than a web-based multi-user chat system would consume, and is far more flexible at the same time. there's no real "security risk" in implementing an IRC server, any more than there is in implementing a database server, a web server, or a mail server... but, that's beside the point - if the hosting company doesn't allow it, they don't allow it.
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Old 11-05-2009, 02:20 PM
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..and, I'm not trying to force you or anyone else to do anything, one way or the other... merely pointing out that I'm less than likely to ever use it.
Fair enough, that is why this thread was created, to see who would be interested in it.

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didn't know your web hosting company wouldn't allow IRC. I can tell you, from a software architect point-of-view, that IRC takes considerably less bandwidth than a web-based multi-user chat system would consume, and is far more flexible at the same time. there's no real "security risk" in implementing an IRC server, any more than there is in implementing a database server, a web server, or a mail server... but, that's beside the point - if the hosting company doesn't allow it, they don't allow it.
It's not the web hosting company, it's the network/internet provider. IRC has received a notoriously bad reputation for being the recipient of DDoS attacks, which can affect the whole network.
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Tom -- that's a reputation that more properly belongs to a couple of the IRC networks, not to the actual server (or, for that matter, client) software. ...but I understand your point.
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