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Old 08-13-2019, 12:26 PM
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So, Iím onto my 4th project on my 2000 ford ranger, and that project is to make a roof rack. Nothing huge, just a bottom and a couple sides put together, my question is, how or where do I bolt it down? Im thinking making some brackets and bolting it kind of by the doors but I have no idea. All of the ones I see and read on online donít have specifics on bolting on my year or model vehicle. The black ford is mine and the green ford is the roof rack I want to make something similar to. Im only making the top piece, not all that tubing that leads to the truck bed.
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Old 08-16-2019, 07:46 PM
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Are you making a roof rack, or a roll cage? The green truck in picture looks more along the lines of a trophy truck which would have a full roll cage that is connected via bolts or welds to the chassis itself. If you want a roof rack that will hold 200lbs give or take then just rivet that bad boy straight to the body. Thatís my opinion, I made one just to hold my spare.




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Old 08-16-2019, 11:26 PM
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Are you making a roof rack, or a roll cage? The green truck in picture looks more along the lines of a trophy truck which would have a full roll cage that is connected via bolts or welds to the chassis itself. If you want a roof rack that will hold 200lbs give or take then just rivet that bad boy straight to the body. Thatís my opinion, I made one just to hold my spare.




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Im wanting to make JUST the roof rack not the whole cage.
What kind of rivets did you use? Got a pic?


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Old 08-18-2019, 06:44 AM
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I used big nasty bolts. But hindsight, and talking to people I realized I should have just used pop-rivets. The kind you install with a squeeze hand-gun. Plus with rivets a guy only needs access to one side of the panel, and if you do them straight it looks super clean.


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Old 09-15-2019, 05:21 PM
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Im wanting to make JUST the roof rack not the whole cage.
What kind of rivets did you use? Got a pic?


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There are better ways to do what your asking and actually have a slew of accessory features work with it and have a nice lower profile rack and better mounting if your open to realistic suggestions and opinions.
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Old 09-22-2019, 01:13 PM
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There are better ways to do what your asking and actually have a slew of accessory features work with it and have a nice lower profile rack and better mounting if your open to realistic suggestions and opinions.


What are some mounting suggestions? Do you think the rivets would hold up?


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Old 07-12-2020, 08:32 PM
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OK, Why the hell did this thread just STOP all of a sudden, without any resolve?

Now I have roof rack questions and I can hardly find any info or suggestions. The search function is no help at all.

Can anyone make any suggestions as to a roof rack that I can put on my 1993 ranger super cab?
I would like it to be something I can pull from a Junkyard or equally as cheap. I was considering the Nissan Frontiere's rack.
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Old 07-15-2020, 09:19 PM
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OK, Why the hell did this thread just STOP all of a sudden, without any resolve?

Now I have roof rack questions and I can hardly find any info or suggestions. The search function is no help at all.

Can anyone make any suggestions as to a roof rack that I can put on my 1993 ranger super cab?
I would like it to be something I can pull from a Junkyard or equally as cheap. I was considering the Nissan Frontiere's rack.

Check out my picture on the thread. Are you wanting something simple? I just pulled the headliner out, found 4 spots to go through just the sheet metal, not the supports as I didnít want to compromise the integrity for WHEN I rollover.... then just attached the roof rack with bolts and rubber grommets with some silicone around them, no leaks and itís been 2-3 years.


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Old 07-20-2020, 06:27 PM
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Forgive my biased opinion on part selection.. That being said lets dig in.


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What are some mounting suggestions? Do you think the rivets would hold up?

A better useful item would be Rivnuts, similar in use and even installation but just better. Popular in 6mm, 8mm, 10mm, 12mm most often. Similar to a rivet however rather than just a pin pulling through a small cavity leaving a shallow or small surface area. A Rivnut has a wider surface to clam-shell the material and then provides a more secure threaded hole to insert a bolt. Nearly every manufacture uses this method in factory roof lines for their factory rails and is the preferred method of securing such things. There are lots of suppliers for these but here's an example I had available:

M8 Rivnut

M6 Rivnut

A Simpler version of a necessary (non-Commercial) tool




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OK, Why the hell did this thread just STOP all of a sudden, without any resolve?

Now I have roof rack questions and I can hardly find any info or suggestions. The search function is no help at all.

Can anyone make any suggestions as to a roof rack that I can put on my 1993 ranger super cab?
I would like it to be something I can pull from a Junkyard or equally as cheap. I was considering the Nissan Frontier's rack.

I wouldn't do the Nissan Rack, aside from its gaudy aesthetics that don't really that aren't the most attractive even on the Frontier, its good for barely 145lbs if memory serves me right; (The Xterra rack was only 160lbs in total more) and although that sounds like a lot. It adds up quick and the roof can handle a bit more than that. Another issue is the total lack of support for making the best use of it altogether, accessories, mounting solutions, etc..

A solution I would offer for consideration would be making a custom rack that fits your needs which can be done using some rack components, the right rails & feet system, and some proper measuring & planning. It's a buy it once, cry once build option that not only should outlast the rest of your trucks life or parallel that but the accessory options and mounting solutions available may be worth the added incentive depending on your real world needs of functionality.

Some of the components

Rail system

As far as Accessories (55+) and expedition rails

https://www.12degnorth.com/rack-accessories

https://www.12degnorth.com/other-rack-parts





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Check out my picture on the thread. Are you wanting something simple? I just pulled the headliner out, found 4 spots to go through just the sheet metal, not the supports as I didnít want to compromise the integrity for WHEN I rollover.... then just attached the roof rack with bolts and rubber grommets with some silicone around them, no leaks and itís been 2-3 years.

Running the bolts through the supports may have just added too structure TBH, If running 4 bolts through the original structures for support was to weaken them to the point of failure, a roll-over situation surely would.

Not saying you did it wrong, seeing what was used and how would certainly change ones perception but now understanding load capabilities, shear force in an accident - especially a head on collision with or without weight would be a thought in my mind. I'm not a structural engineer but I would assume the more metal, frame, or structural integrity I could derive a solid mount from the better things would be than through.

Now I have done a crap load of modifications to at least a few hundred plus vehicles in my time on a conservative guess, not including those of all the vehicles I've owned and modded myself. Not sure what yr your ranger is but I do know the roof metal of my 93' & 94' Ranger was about 18-20 gauge sheet steel, nothing like that old school 16-14ga back in the day our parents cars were made of. I don't think yours would be any thinner or thicker for that matter. Adding sound deadening material did make it stop sounding like an old metal gas can though overall.



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Old 07-22-2020, 11:09 AM
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Ideally, this is offers maximum surface area for such a small roof line area to do the most with. A basket on the other hand takes away from the most use not to mention limits both additional functional accessory assets and mounting solutions overall.






The above rack setup can be mimic'd, you can use the top, bottom, sides 360*. You can mount a SR series 30", 36", 40" LED bar under the front of the basket, lean it back and tuck it under. Functional, removes a ton of reflective light glare off the hood, and it can hide the light making it less obtrusive and maybe minimizing theft.

You can see the slot under this particular setup? That allows for a table to be locked in using an accessory to do so and or for those that have other means of table setups, you could tuck that solar panel you've always thought about doing and expand your capabilities or stay wherever you may roam.

The sides can be used for additional side lighting, awnings, road showers, or recovery gear; everything from Maxtrax to shovels & axes. The top, additional water, fuel, storage space, or that spare tire mount.

I could come up with at least 5 dozen creative/functional, and best of all most often "DUAL USE" attributes the lame basket or stock bar setups can't do on their own.

Now for the honesty that few on any Ranger site (unless the 5G guys) want to hear.

No, its not cheap or cheaper than the basket or doing something yourself. As I said earlier, it's a buy once, cry once item. If you think your needs may never change, or items get broke and irreplaceable thereby forcing change.. sure you can think that. But not everyone has that T-shirt yet and so I guess you have to learn your own way. I'm not here to change that.

Those that are serious outdoors people that see the potential in a product will DM me or visit the site and do what they do. We appreciate your support, especially in these crazy weird times.


Any questions, or you want to see what else we have to offer, feel free to visit us on the web. https://www.12degnorth.com/product-p...y-front-runner

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