Undrstm8ed's 93' XLT Overlanding build... - Page 11

Undrstm8ed · #**151** 07-31-2018, 02:05 AM

Tomorrow I am hoping to have enough time to get the drivers side done. Wednesday I'll do both outer seat belts and the inner belt receivers which is great because i was really itching badly on needing the Drivers side receiver replaced.

Friday If I got time to, I am hoping to pull the 60/40 road-head worthy bench seat, remove the back wall amp/layered sub box rack, R&R blue trim plastics for gray replacements and start the swapping out the interior. I still have some sound deadner material to lay too which will go towards the roof panel. I'll have to pull seats again eventually again because I'll be doing fresh new carpet come soon after August.

Still deciding on charcoal or black carpet.. Either will show dirt or mud I suppose. But I think with the updates to the door panels I would like to do in black and gray and to keep a fresher look for longer, I'm leaning towards the black more so ANDDD... I would like to get a set of these seat covers in black although I've seen better pics, its the general concept and to boot. minimize stuff in the glovebox and door pockets that I want to have in the truck but not where it is. The plastic rattles drive me nuts at times.

I'll get some before and afters of that too...

UltraHDGames · #**152** 07-31-2018, 01:59 PM

Which seat covers are those? Wouldn't mind a pair for myself

Undrstm8ed · #**153** 08-01-2018, 12:30 PM

CoverKing.. https://www.12degnorth.com/product-p...er-seat-covers

Undrstm8ed · #**154** 08-10-2018, 01:47 AM

Started late to swap out the new [to me] bucket seats in place of the 60/40 bench, and BLUE interior that has worn its welcome.

I did notice that the buckets do sit higher up, or so it seems. My seats are old and have a lot of seat time but the foam seat itself isnt broken down or even squished. It's better for me now so I like it..

Some things have come up, so I'll either be pushing forward with swapping out some plastic trim tomorrow late afternoon or be pushing it off until Monday.

In the interim, the use of the F450 was out of town sooooo.. Had to move the boat trailer with the Ranger. I was surprised it sagged the rear end as it seems as though the 8x16 trailer with the tandem axles and raising/lowering floor function was far heavier and I pulled it with no problems of sagging.. it drove fine, albeit long as hell people thought for a small truck to be yanking around; was both interesting and a bit humorous to me the stares. CLEARLY would not pull the boat! LOL

The Boat -

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Undrstm8ed · #**155** 08-11-2018, 01:37 AM

Back inside.. started being more proactive about swapping out the gray interior from the blue. There are two important factors to mention. Both the headliner and the carpet will be swapped out but I am not likely to do it until closer to winter time..

They will both be black, I've already noticed the lighter gray interior has lightened up the window tint. May have to pull the 35% and go back to a 20% (actually a 17%) and or tint the new windshield this fall.

Id really like to use the crystaline from 3M due to its blocking of a ridiculous amount of heat and being very light (70%) BUT at $2k a roll they really don't like to sell it to the public.. so that's been the excuse anyway.

Back to the interior. Since I had to yank the old headliner which was just the foam layer, the cloth literally disintegrated 2 years ago and I kept pushing it off.. as it wasnt sagging any longer and or bare metal turning my Std cab truck into a convection oven; so I left it be but today I did at least take the time to address a couple NVH issues before placing the temporary one in its place.

Yea, it was 110* today at 1618hrs and i'm playing with a 630* Heat gun, real smart ehh?

Now everyone's got their arguments on brands, cost factors, type of, even weight concerns of material based vs spray on.. blah blah
Now to be honest. I was going to let the guys over at 12* North spray a specific sound deadener in the truck along with a added heat rejecting ceramic layer but cost factors weren't in the budget this early in the month. But I did have a few pieces left of my Streetwires "Zero noise" left and it was just enough to get the roof done to match the back wall. Maybe in the fall when I replace the carpet I can get the floorboards done along with the inside/outer inner door skins.

And Yes.. I purposely set it up to be read correctly as I was looking up at the roof. I should have made a slight 0.125" to 0.1875 overlap but I was very thin in material coverage and well.. I could always double up on it at a latter date if need be. So with the headliner down and cleaned & prepped.

First piece, passenger side.

Add in travelers side.

Back again, and again.. add in's to touch up and make complete.

Then came the high density acoustic foam which was used to seal off cavities left open by the manufactures design.

Both sides were done as well as the front and rear "halo" like portions of the front windscreen and above the rear window.

Not gonna lie, the very first time I put in an OHC was in my own and up until the material fell off I had hid 2 small mistakes which of course once no material was there were embarrassingly visible. With the newer headliner I adjusted my miss calculations and tightened up the OHC look. I am more pleased with it, although I think I have a better understanding of the bracket than before which when I do the black headliner. I will again make a necessary adjustment.

Of course it was dark by this time... but done for the night. Just need to finish off the seat belts and rear panels behind the seat corners and the modified grills.

More to come.. New tires coming in this week. Went up a size putting me at 34's now with all new front end joints. Still need to address the sloppy steering box eventually before it becomes even further worse.. Feel like Capt. Jack Sparrow on some shitty corrugated paved roads here in Vegas at times. Jones is a Nightmare street! lol

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harlowe · #**156** 08-11-2018, 06:06 AM

so why go with the molle covers vs the more versatile/ inexpensive panels?

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Originally Posted by Undrstm8ed

Tomorrow I am hoping to have enough time to get the drivers side done. Wednesday I'll do both outer seat belts and the inner belt receivers which is great because i was really itching badly on needing the Drivers side receiver replaced.

Friday If I got time to, I am hoping to pull the 60/40 road-head worthy bench seat, remove the back wall amp/layered sub box rack, R&R blue trim plastics for gray replacements and start the swapping out the interior. I still have some sound deadner material to lay too which will go towards the roof panel. I'll have to pull seats again eventually again because I'll be doing fresh new carpet come soon after August.

Still deciding on charcoal or black carpet.. Either will show dirt or mud I suppose. But I think with the updates to the door panels I would like to do in black and gray and to keep a fresher look for longer, I'm leaning towards the black more so ANDDD... I would like to get a set of these seat covers in black although I've seen better pics, its the general concept and to boot. minimize stuff in the glovebox and door pockets that I want to have in the truck but not where it is. The plastic rattles drive me nuts at times.

I'll get some before and afters of that too...

UltraHDGames · #**157** 08-11-2018, 07:21 AM

Personally I'd black it all out. My level 2 has the all black interior with the black headliner and even without tint it's already pretty dark in there

Undrstm8ed · #**158** 08-11-2018, 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by harlowe

so why go with the molle covers vs the more versatile/ inexpensive panels?

Good Question.. What Demon pulled up is a MOLLE window covering for 2G Nissan Xterra's and if I had an extra-cab.. I would almost consider buying a pair just cut them down and cover the back quarter glass windows and make that space functional.

For my situation, Standard Cab, It would be easier to reach over the passenger seat and fold it forward for access to what I want on the back which is out of sight, out of mind. Interior real estate is at a premium and keeping it all highly organized is key or it doesnt come with. Insert OCD hashtag here. lol

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Originally Posted by UltraHDGames

Personally I'd black it all out. My level 2 has the all black interior with the black headliner and even without tint it's already pretty dark in there

I'd like to see that.. I was trying not to "murder" out the interior simply because even black can become reflective at some point especially with dash or aux lighting inside with tint too. After a couple decades of window tinting and color changing a few interiors in past, I began to hate limo tint all around for that reason, especially in newer cars. Sometimes less is more and with sun from 0445 hrs to almost 2100 hrs and up to near 120* temps. Black out may be too hot. Especially when everyone gets a load of the exterior and new overall theme for 2020. EXPO West is plan..! # goals

harlowe · #**159** 08-12-2018, 06:24 AM

with that plan for the covers in mind, I'd totally go for panels, I got a pair of panels for my seats for $90 from springtail solutions, they're ridgid and flipable, they're a little tought to origianlly get pouches on but I love them

http://store-springtailsolutions-com...anel_p_48.html

[QUOTE=Undrstm8ed;2746256]Good Question.. What Demon pulled up is a MOLLE window covering for 2G Nissan Xterra's and if I had an extra-cab.. I would almost consider buying a pair just cut them down and cover the back quarter glass windows and make that space functional.

For my situation, Standard Cab, It would be easier to reach over the passenger seat and fold it forward for access to what I want on the back which is out of sight, out of mind. Interior real estate is at a premium and keeping it all highly organized is key or it doesnt come with. Insert OCD hashtag here. lol

Undrstm8ed · #**160** 08-13-2018, 02:59 AM

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Originally Posted by harlowe

with that plan for the covers in mind, I'd totally go for panels, I got a pair of panels for my seats for $90 from springtail solutions, they're ridgid and flipable, they're a little tought to origianlly get pouches on but I love them

http://store-springtailsolutions-com...anel_p_48.html

Although that concept may work for some, yourself included. it doesn't fit my needs or my seats very well and doesn't offer the protection of the seat in the respects i am interested in unfortunately.

a.] Not looking to add large MOLLE packs on the back of the seats. at 6' 2" and 226lbs plus with the addition of the wares on the back wall behind the seats. I need all the room I can get.
b.] Again, access is key also in reference to "a." weight is a concern to some degree
c.] I personally don't want to see straps and buckles lashed around the seat and since my ranger doesn't exactly have a separate head rest, aesthetically it turns me off
d.] The seat covers fit like a surfers wetsuit, provide a combination of added protection and likely the fastest and most affordable color change is seat material - PLUS the MOLLE back panels which are an actual part of the seat at that point, not just a hanging and strap/buckled panel.

On the plus side, I can see it having other purposes of sorts in other things sort of but even in that sense I have my thoughts and eyes on a particular Field Trauma kit as a first-aid kit and it will reside next to the drop down table on the back of the recovery cubby with side access.

Also, price isn't a 'first' thing for me in delegating purchases. Value is; and those are both deeply rooted with Quality and Service related aspects foremost.
After working with Coverking in past as well as recently installing a few newer sets. My ears do perk up when both the woman and my Sponsor's say "You need these or this.." lol

harlowe · #**161** 08-13-2018, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Undrstm8ed

Although that concept may work for some, yourself included. it doesn't fit my needs or my seats very well and doesn't offer the protection of the seat in the respects i am interested in unfortunately.

a.] Not looking to add large MOLLE packs on the back of the seats. at 6' 2" and 226lbs plus with the addition of the wares on the back wall behind the seats. I need all the room I can get.
b.] Again, access is key also in reference to "a." weight is a concern to some degree
c.] I personally don't want to see straps and buckles lashed around the seat and since my ranger doesn't exactly have a separate head rest, aesthetically it turns me off
d.] The seat covers fit like a surfers wetsuit, provide a combination of added protection and likely the fastest and most affordable color change is seat material - PLUS the MOLLE back panels which are an actual part of the seat at that point, not just a hanging and strap/buckled panel.

On the plus side, I can see it having other purposes of sorts in other things sort of but even in that sense I have my thoughts and eyes on a particular Field Trauma kit as a first-aid kit and it will reside next to the drop down table on the back of the recovery cubby with side access.

Also, price isn't a 'first' thing for me in delegating purchases. Value is; and those are both deeply rooted with Quality and Service related aspects foremost.
After working with Coverking in past as well as recently installing a few newer sets. My ears do perk up when both the woman and my Sponsor's say "You need these or this.." lol

I guess I neglected the standard cab, I've only ever owned extended cabs, and as for visible straps I went and got trail gear set covers from cabelas and ran the straps through them- they aren't wetsuit tight but they're way better than the $5 generic bucket seat covers

Undrstm8ed · #**162** 08-13-2018, 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by harlowe

I guess I neglected the standard cab, I've only ever owned extended cabs, and as for visible straps I went and got trail gear set covers from cabelas and ran the straps through them- they aren't wetsuit tight but they're way better than the $5 generic bucket seat covers

Yea, I wish it was an extra cab. The next one will be and for good reason. The Flip-Pac is migrating to it so I can do a Norweld Aluminum flat bed and canopy setup on the Std cab.

but aside from that, yea check that seat cover link above a few posts and you'll see in there with the pics, they have a video of the fitment, its 2nd to none that I've seen. I didn't really wanna soak that kind of money into seat covers but.. I've spent more on far worse things in life.

Just kills two birds with one stone..

harlowe · #**163** 08-14-2018, 04:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Undrstm8ed

Yea, I wish it was an extra cab. The next one will be and for good reason. The Flip-Pac is migrating to it so I can do a Norweld Aluminum flat bed and canopy setup on the Std cab.

but aside from that, yea check that seat cover link above a few posts and you'll see in there with the pics, they have a video of the fitment, its 2nd to none that I've seen. I didn't really wanna soak that kind of money into seat covers but.. I've spent more on far worse things in life.

Just kills two birds with one stone..

I looked at them during my search for covers about a year back, but if I remember correctly they don't make ranger bucket seat covers

Undrstm8ed · #**164** 08-15-2018, 02:07 AM

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Originally Posted by harlowe

I looked at them during my search for covers about a year back, but if I remember correctly they don't make ranger bucket seat covers

The seat covers in question:
https://www.coverking.com/seat-cover...anger-xlt.html

1994 Buckets w/Sport seats

2002 60/40 options only, you're right.

However, There is a generation of your trucks 50/50 seats likely in other years. I bet if you hunted around the years and x-referenced them from another year OR went custom, you could get close or exactly what you want, even in leather re-covering kits no less.

Or get your self a set of 93-97 50/50 Buckets and go that direction. May not be a silver bullet answer but there are real options, just may not have the same value to you [yet].

harlowe · #**165** 08-15-2018, 05:28 PM

I did debate a seat swap, but every seat I found basically needed rebuilt and that made it not worth it, either way I'm happy with my setup so not really a big deal anymore

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Originally Posted by Undrstm8ed

Or get your self a set of 93-97 50/50 Buckets and go that direction. May not be a silver bullet answer but there are real options, just may not have the same value to you [yet].