Member: Lowranger96

Clinton · #1 03-11-2011, 09:58 AM

I purchased a back end cluster and HVAC panel soldered with LED's from Lowranger96 because for some reson LED bulbs would not work in my clusters. In the beginning, he told me once I paid for it, it would be a week turn around. I received the cluster backing and HVAC panel 1 month after paying him. We first spoke I told him I wanted a green display but I have green filters and asked if I should do green LED's or white, He told me green...I figured the kid knows more than I do about it so I took his word for it. I get the cluster and HVAC panel, The cluster was pretty dirty when I got it but no big deal. I plugged it in my truck and it wouldnt work, Also the HVAC panel had different hookup points than my truck had.

I sent him an email telling him of the situation, right off the bat refuses a refund even when I offered to ship the parts back to him at my own cost. He also said he wont refund my money due to the money he put in for LED's, also saying green LED's are hard to sell and he cant sell them and the back part of the cluster. I offered to take the refund less the cost of the LED's, and still send everything back to him and still he refuses. He says the things worked on his bench test so what happens after they leave his hands is beyond his control so if you order from this guy, you may want to remember what goes beyond his hands is out of his control.....If it even worked in the first place.

So going by his word on the one week turn around, and telling me green LED's will do the job, then turning around and saying he cant resell green LED's, I don't trust his word for anything as far as his "bench test" goes. He wants me to send the items back at my expense so he can check them, and I am sure what ever the problem is he will tell me I have to pay more, he already said I would have to pay more for shipping so he can send them to me again. So after waiting a month on the original deal, I am sure after the bickering it will take longer than month for me to get it back again plus more money.

All I asked for was a refund, he gets his parts back, plus I am shipping it out of my own pocket and taking the hit for the green LED's so he isn't out the cost for that and he still refuses. So Buyers beware....it sounds like a money pit job to me!

Badb3000 · #2 03-11-2011, 10:03 AM

He doesnt make any sense. Why are green LED's hard to sale. I know a ton of people with green LED's. Definetely something sketchy about him.

HazardousRanger · #3 03-11-2011, 10:53 AM

maybe cuz green is the main color in clusters? in my expierence anyway.....sorry to hear about that man! how fucked up

buggman · #4 03-11-2011, 10:55 AM

I'm not normally one to post something like this, but in this case:

No offense to the guy, but LED's of ANY color aren't THAT expensive.

If you can't afford $10.00 for some led's & resistors, you probably shouldn't be doing led mods.

He should man-up and refund your money for a bad job or take responsibility for his work & make it right.

(slightly off topic)
I recently made a custom led panel that got lost lost in the mail, I didn't insure it (my mistake) and it was a one of a kind custom piece. I told the buyer what happened & I immediately began building another led panel for him, shipped & insured it on my dime & I never asked him for anything other than a little patience as I made another item for him.
I'm out way more than I got for the original panel, but I did my best to make things right for him. That's called responsibility.

Clinton, you WILL be getting a smokin' hot green led modded cluster & hvac

pooleo · #5 03-11-2011, 11:01 AM

wow sorry clinton thats a shady dealing there. I have been working on these led mods for clusters and leds are not that expensive. I have seen them as low as $30 for 2k leds.

brett20 · #6 03-11-2011, 11:12 AM

sorry to hear man, i thought something was sketch about him

Dcrymes99ranger · #7 03-11-2011, 11:26 AM

Dude that sucks Clinton!!!

Jimmeh · #8 03-11-2011, 11:44 AM

Hopefully he'll chime in here and give us his side of the story.

I'm not doubting you Clinton, but I like to hear both sides of the story too! He sounds like a bad seller, but it's better to play the devils advocate than to jump on the bandwagon, lol.

Clinton · #9 03-11-2011, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimmeh

Hopefully he'll chime in here and give us his side of the story.

I'm not doubting you Clinton, but I like to hear both sides of the story too! He sounds like a bad seller, but it's better to play the devils advocate than to jump on the bandwagon, lol.

I understand that completely, no problem.

GGlighting · #10 03-11-2011, 12:10 PM

LED colors are all the same price/ difficulty to acquire. white is just as much as green/ red/ yellow/ blue/ etc.

This guy is SKETCHY

lowranger96 · #11 03-12-2011, 03:15 PM

I originally told him one week on turn around. I then informed him i ran out of parts and had to go to the yard to get more. I couldn't get to the yard because of an ice storm which i believe i informed him of that as well.

I sent him a picture of the cluster lit up on the bench, so when he says he "doesn't work if the bench test is even true", that's crap because he has a picture of it lit up.

Due to the custom build of this type of thing, i told him that if he sent the product back, which he had already agreed to pay shipping on, then i would check the functionality of the product and make the refund based on that. If the product did not work then i told him a full refund would be in order. IF the product did work then i told him i'd refund what he paid, minus the cost of the materials that couldn't be reused and the initial shipping that i paid.

I initially told him that a refund would be difficult due to the fact that he custom ordered green leds and the resale of that would be difficult if it was an issue of him just not liking it after the fact.

i can't understand why the buyer says green leds arent doing the job if the cluster doesn't light up at all. He wanted his cluster to light up green, so i put green leds in. Shouldn't have anything to do with resell because it was custom built for him, not anyone else. I told him resell would be difficult because most people that have bought from me that go led are looking for a color change, not the same factory coloring. I shouldn't need to sell him something and consider a resale value on it when he's custom ordering a specific thing.

I do not believe ive been unreasonable in the refund terms that i laid down.

and for the record, ive sold tons of these, bench tested every one, and never had any issues with anything not working once sent out. again, i told him i'd gladly check out the product and base the refund on if it worked for me or not, because all im doing is plugging in 12v to the cluster, just like a truck would, with factory harnesses.

and i never said green was harder to get a hold of, i simply said it's like refunding a custom ordered cake that has stuff written on it, no body else wants a cake that says someone elses name, same thing here. people going led normally dont want the same stock color.. whats the point. nevertheless i made him what he wanted

Clinton · #12 03-12-2011, 03:21 PM

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Originally Posted by lowranger96

I sent him a picture of the cluster lit up on the bench, so when he says he "doesn't work if the bench test is even true", that's crap because he has a picture of it lit up.

Dude...That is a flat out lie. You didnt send 1 picture to me. You never said anything about it being a custom order and if there was a problem or anything in those regards I wouldn't get a refund until after I asked for the refund

lowranger96 · #13 03-12-2011, 03:26 PM

HOW IS IT NOT A CUSTOM ORDER.. I BUILT IT FOR YOUR TRUCK DIDN'T I? sure as heck didn't buy it with leds soldered on

i sent an email of a picture to you as soon as you started emailing me that you were having problems dude.

if you email doesnt work properly that's your problem, but here's the picture AGAIN

Clinton · #14 03-12-2011, 03:29 PM

And remember, if the bakery messed up that cake, they still have to make good on it and take the hit because of their own mistakes

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Originally Posted by lowranger96

i sent an email of a picture to you as soon as you started emailing me that you were having problems dude.

if you email doesnt work properly that's your problem, but here's the picture AGAIN

Yeah blame it on the email just like you blame the junk you sold me on me and the post office. It's ok junior its never your fault. You are a rip off, plain and simple. You get money, I get shit a month later. So I hope everyone reads this and sees what kind of a dope you are by saying that stupid shit and then saying my email is bad because I never got the picture

lowranger96 · #15 03-12-2011, 03:32 PM

ha, that's funny, because i'm pretty sure i said shipping damage is unlikely... and you were the one that said "Like I said, it could be my truck or something may have happened in shipping."

yeah if they messed if up they make good i agree, but that analogy isn't saying they messed it up, it's saying someone ordered the wrong thing and found out it doesnt work, then wants a refund on wasted stuff