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Old 02-14-2011, 09:48 PM
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Oh, forgot to ask, do you know his real name? Or his real address?
Could be a problem...
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Old 02-14-2011, 10:30 PM
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I have his real name and updated address, I need to get a letter sent to him in the mail
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:59 AM
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You mention a negative paypal balance. I'm guessing he filed a paypal complaint and paypal ruled in his favor. What was his argument? Your argument? Paypals explanation?
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Old 02-15-2011, 01:46 AM
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Sorry about this happening t such a great guy, I f memory serves me correctly, BigHarv sold a lot of ranger items on this board as well as RF RIGHT? Do me a favor Ben and send me his mailing addy and phone number is possible, you need someone who can do some legal work and take it to him, This is theft and filing a claim may not be the answer, How about you call your local Police and do a report, and that's where I also will come in. I have met you a few times and I know what kind of guy you are in person, So let's deal with this.
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Old 02-15-2011, 05:28 AM
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he said go ahead and take him to small claims court, so i need to figure out if i can do that, or if i should pursue another venue. anyone have any experience with this sort of thing?
Ok benny boy..idle threats don't cut it in a court room..you wanted to do this guy..well...get it on..you have a 'worthy opponent" who dosen't live by idle threats..you got what you wished for..be happy..:-)
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Old 02-15-2011, 10:34 AM
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OK...I am NOT going to let someone bash my good name!! Ben is leaving out several points to this all! I paid him through paypal. In the paypay payment form I typed in the message box, the address to ship the radio to. Also here on this website through PM's I send him the address. Ben states he was going to reship it for FREE??? BULL! Guys I have all the emails and everything to back it up! He told me I was not getting my money back and to just get over it. I provided paypal with the the documents. That is why they found in MY favor. He has his radio and he had my money! Who was trying to scam who??? I was not trying to scam anyone!!!

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awesome, as soon as it clears my end ill have your radio in the mail! i need your address.

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$40 shipped.....Do you have paypal?
i do have paypal, benhayward10@hotmail.com 40 shipped is good for me.

Payment has been set Bro!!!

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Front Royal, Va 22630

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listen man i tried to work with you before and you wouldnt have it, now that paypal didnt fix your mistake, we are back where we started. I can send you the radio again not a problem, alls I need is a CURRENT address and you will have to pay again for shipping. After all that stuff through paypal and you accusing me of things i didnt do, i by no means am going to help you out. I have no further beef with you, now its strictly business, but im not going to take a loss on this radio anymore. My options for you are this, drop it and move on, no hard feelings or resend money for shipping. Its your call.

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Where is the Radio??? I need to try to re-sell it now!


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I used the address you put on paypal, I had it all set to go and shipped by the time you sent me a different address. I am not trying to screw anyone over, I just don't feel that you not keeping up all your info on paypal up to date my fault. If you do decide to report it I will defend myself. I will resend the radio for no extra charge, and you can resell it if you would like but if I give you 40 back that puts me in the hole on the radio for your paypal mistake.

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Dude, I DO NOT need it now! I went and paid for an aftermarket radio. You screwed up, not me. I send you my address twice on here and once on my paypal in the NOTES! I want my full $40 back. If not I, WILL file a complaint with paypay and let everyone know here on the Forum!!! Do the Right thing bro!!




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By the time I had read that I had shipped it to the address on YOUR paypal, ill take a hit on the shipping charges and send you the srereo to another address but im not gonna give you 40. Or ill give you the 26 bucks that's left over after shipping.

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no no no no no.........................I sent you the CORRECT address though rangerforums.com......it is documented!! I want the full $40 back!!!




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Your paypal gave me the address, I sent it to where it said cause it printed me out a shipping label, if you want me to return the money minus the 15 bucks it took to send it I would be glad.

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I am going to go get an after market installed today. Just refund my money through paypal.




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hey the box just came back to me, i shipped it to the address you gave me on paypal, just verified it, i dont know why it was returned to sender...

Dana Harvey
212 W. Main St
Front Royal, VA 22630
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Still not here bro......................................




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and i promise i sent it out that day, you can look at the postmarked date when it gets there, i wish there was more i can do, but i WILL talk to the post office tomorrow.

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Still not here!!!!


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Hey bud, Do you have a tracking number or anything? It has still not shown up. Thanks!

Dana

they didnt give me one that i know of, im assuming it hasnt shown up because of the heavy traffic of packages going out at this time of the year, if it hasnt shown up by tuesday let me know and ill talk to the post office and see if i cant get a tracking number.




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for sure, i just took it out of mine like 2 weeks ago cause i got a new deck. you might even get a free cd of some sort lol i dont remember if i took it out or not...

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sweet! I cant wait to have some tunes in the truck!!!


Thanks!!


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sorry it took so long, payment has been recieved, its boxed up and sent usps today, they said it should be there thursday or friday. let me know how everything goes. its in a box with lots of newspaper for padding.

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Everything Good?? Did you get the payment???



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awesome, as soon as it clears my end ill have your radio in the mail! i need your address.

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$40 shipped.....Do you have paypal?
i do have paypal, benhayward10@hotmail.com 40 shipped is good for me.

Payment has been set Bro!!!

Send to

Dana Harvey
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:13 AM
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Unfortunately you're in a catch 22 type of scenerio whereby if you go to small claims court , it will cost you money and time to do so . Possibly even a lawyer if necessary but maybe not . Is the time dealing with jerks like this worth your time and money to bring him to small claims and maybe , if you are lucky , make any money on this back ? Unfortunately to make a point is a lot today .

I would say adios to this guy and just by posting his name as He tried to use you , everyone knows not to deal with him , may be enough , but you certainly can go to small claims court ....

My opinion ? Not enough to make me spend money on this guy unless small claims says I can sue for like triple damges and/or lawyers fees as well . If He gets hit with a 500 dollar bill on a 60 dollar transaction , He'll learn the next time ....


Your call but either way its what you feel you should do ....

Either way Best of luck !! Sorry you have to go thru this ....
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:17 AM
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Merlin....did you not read what I posted??? All I wanted was my money back because I NEVER received the radio!! What is small claims court gonna do?? I did not get the radio. He had the radio and my money!!! Why shouldn't I get my money back??
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:25 AM
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Merlin....did you not read what I posted??? All I wanted was my money back because I NEVER received the radio!! What is small claims court gonna do?? I did not get the radio. He had the radio and my money!!! Why shouldn't I get my money back??

I posted that before yours was posted as I just read it ....

I think you 2 guys should talk about this as its not that big a deal ...

Seems like you can come to some sort of a decision , maybe get 20 bucks back and call it a day or something ?

Talk to Ben and see what He says ...

Something went wrong and It can be fixed ....

Always 2 sides to a story ....
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Old 02-15-2011, 11:56 AM
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Small Claims for 40 bucks, I just hope you guys can get to some kind of agreement before youre 3 years way over your head in lawyers and forms
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:04 PM
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That's why I used paypal. They investigated the claim and found in my favor. They have everything on the claim. They said he has NO CASE in Court. It would be a waste of time and money for him to try.
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Old 02-15-2011, 12:04 PM
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wow ya'll, small claims over 40 bucks. im sure it could have been sorted out other than this thread
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:16 AM
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Sorry about this happening t such a great guy, I f memory serves me correctly, BigHarv sold a lot of ranger items on this board as well as RF RIGHT? Do me a favor Ben and send me his mailing addy and phone number is possible, you need someone who can do some legal work and take it to him, This is theft and filing a claim may not be the answer, How about you call your local Police and do a report, and that's where I also will come in. I have met you a few times and I know what kind of guy you are in person, So let's deal with this.


Hey bud, I have never sold anything on here or the other forum.

If you read my comments, you will see that I did nothing wrong. My shipping info was send to him twice. I never got the radio. so I wanted my money back! I am sure everyone else would have done the same thing!!

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hey guys i am just sending out a warning about a user that has now screwed me out of 40 bucks, and cause a lot of grief to me.

over x-mas break i sold a stock deck to a member on here who gave me the wrong address via paypal, it was returned to sender due to the wrong address. he then proceeded to harass me and threaten me via paypal and PMs on this site. he has now screwed me over due to paypal and some things i still need to talk to them about. his name is bigharv, he is a liar and a thief he should not be trusted.

due to his inability to keep his stuff organized and up to date this whole chain of events has happened, and now i have had to spend the last 2 months dealing with a person who became childish and very unreasonable, i offered to reship it for free, but he would not accept anything less than a full refund after i paid almost 20 dollars to ship it to him. i know its only 40 dollars but i think the fact that after trying to help him out and be friendly and what not is the reason im fighting this.

anyone on this website who has done business with me knows i am a strait shooter and a very reasonable guy, i admit when i a m wrong and i dont want to hurt or screw over anyone, but dealing with this has been one major pain in the ass.

any suggestions would be greatly appretiated, also anyone that knows him i would like to get in contact with him by other means other than PM so let me know.

Hey Ben, that is slanderous. I NEVER lied or stole anything from you. You better be careful what you post. It can come back to bite you in the ass.
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:29 AM
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After reading everything here this is my un-biased opinion on this thing. Since paypal was the method of payment and had a verified addy, Ben10 was right to send it to the verified addy and BigHarv is at fault.

If however, there was a message in the notes section of the payment that said please send it to "this" addy, then Ben10 is at fault and should have contacted Bigharv to double check what the correct addy was.

My solution to this thing, lets take a vote on it. Show us the screen shot image of the paypal payment with the notes section. If it is there in the notes about the addy, ben10 eats the cost. If not, Bigharv eats the cost.

This is a demacracy we live in, lets put it to use, shows us the facts and let us make a decision.
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Old 02-16-2011, 05:40 AM
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First of all, Slander is spoken. Libel is written. Get your legal accusations right.

I read your whole long copy-and-paste posting. And I still agree with Ben. According to all this he shipped it to YOUR INCORRECTLY LISTED SHIPPING ADDRESS before you sent him a different one.

You then proceeded to go buy something else and took it upon yourself to cancel the transaction after it was already shipped to your incorrectly listed shipping address. Ben had every right to demand you hold up your end of the bargain.

The proper end to this would have been for you to accept his gracious reshipment of the stereo to your new address. But you're too busy being impatient with a situation that you apparently created due to your own mistake.
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