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Old 03-15-2013, 03:32 AM
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Hi, I am the tech manager at FRAM. The Ultra filter from FRAM is the best filter we make. It features a silicone antidrainback valve, steel end caps, a stainless steel pleated screen wrapped in two layers of full synthetic glass filter media. It has 99% efficiency at 10-20 microns using the ISO 4548-12 test protocol, holds 32 grams of dirt till full, the highest oil filter capacity in the entire industry. I have run them on my 1998 4.0l Ranger for the last 140k miles, it is pushing 200k now and running strong. Always use Mobil 1 oil and change every 10k.
There are a few similar filters in the industry, Royal Purple (22grams cap and 16$ price) Amsoil (23 grams cap and 17$ price) and Bosch Distance (22 grams cap and 14.99$). You can see, the Ultra is a bargain.

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Old 03-15-2013, 06:30 AM
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Really dude? Did I try to sell anyone the filter? Just provided facts and nothing more. Have a great day
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:46 AM
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Really dude? Did I try to sell anyone the filter? Just provided facts and nothing more. Have a great day

Back in the 1990s Fram sold a filter with teflon sprayed on the media. After all the mess that caused, I have had nothing to do with Fram oil filters. Fram did that despite dupont chemical stating on the record that teflon should NEVER be used inside an internal combustion engine.
Crappy anti drainback valves and cardboard end caps were used by Fram for decades and if you say Fram now has a filter with metal endcaps and silicon drainback valves I say it's about time, other filter manufacturers have been doing that for decades.
Just stating the facts.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:55 AM
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Back in the 1990s Fram sold a filter with teflon sprayed on the media. After all the mess that caused, I have had nothing to do with Fram oil filters. Fram did that despite dupont chemical stating on the record that teflon should NEVER be used inside an internal combustion engine.
Crappy anti drainback valves and cardboard end caps were used by Fram for decades and if you say Fram now has a filter with metal endcaps and silicon drainback valves I say it's about time, other filter manufacturers have been doing that for decades.
Just stating the facts.
The fact are this-end caps do nothing more than seal the end of the filter cartridge. Honda, Subaru, and Nissan all use OE filters with fiber end caps. Toyota OE filters have no end caps, only glue sealing the pleats. Bentley uses fiber end caps on 350K vehicles. GM uses felt end caps on 100% of its oe vehicles. Many European vehicles use Mann filters with glue end caps, but I am sure all those car companies simply do not know what they are doing. As for the Teflon filter, we made it for a year, discontinued it just as quickly and those people do not work here anymore.
Please visit my youtube channel (jay buckley) if you really want to learn about filtration. No commercials, just engineering facts.
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Old 03-15-2013, 08:01 AM
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me likey the smarty engr stuff!

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Old 03-15-2013, 08:03 AM
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Old 03-15-2013, 11:09 AM
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I went to buy one to see for myself - look what I found when I cut it open:

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Old 03-15-2013, 11:12 AM
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I went to buy one to see for myself - look what I found when I cut it open:

So funny, now your using my lines when somebody says "you have 36 pleats and brand xxx has 48" so they must be better cuz there is more paper in there.

Filter media capacity per square inch is all that matters homeboy. All media is not the same.
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Old 03-15-2013, 12:20 PM
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While paper end caps maybe fine, I'm just not thrilled with them being glued on. You are correct that vehicle manufacturers use them but I would rather use a better constructed filter. Typically, but not always, they also have a better media and are better for longer duration oil changes.

To each their own though. Honda has used Fram style filters for years with plain old conventional oil. Both will apparently do the job.

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Old 03-15-2013, 02:43 PM
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I went to buy one to see for myself - look what I found when I cut it open:
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Old 03-15-2013, 03:18 PM
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fram filters are complete JUNK
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:47 PM
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The fact are this-end caps do nothing more than seal the end of the filter cartridge. Honda, Subaru, and Nissan all use OE filters with fiber end caps. Toyota OE filters have no end caps, only glue sealing the pleats. Bentley uses fiber end caps on 350K vehicles. GM uses felt end caps on 100% of its oe vehicles. Many European vehicles use Mann filters with glue end caps, but I am sure all those car companies simply do not know what they are doing. As for the Teflon filter, we made it for a year, discontinued it just as quickly and those people do not work here anymore.
Please visit my youtube channel (jay buckley) if you really want to learn about filtration. No commercials, just engineering facts.
That you for at least being support that fram filters arnt 100% crap. I personally don't like them, but my family uses them with cars/trucks/vans that have well over 150k-200k using them for much of their life with no problems.

So all new Toyota's breakin with no end caps? Where metal shavings are at its worst? Guess it shows that end caps are not too important on filter caps.
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Old 03-15-2013, 06:54 PM
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Idk... I honesty might try that super fancy Fram next time... Or I might buy one and cut it up!
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:15 PM
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Idk... I honesty might try that super fancy Fram next time... Or I might buy one and cut it up!
Isn't gonna hurt your engine, running my ranger, '99 ranger 2.5L, '11 ranger 4.0L with fram with no problems.
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Old 03-15-2013, 07:17 PM
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Well it's not that it will cause problems, it's just the quality
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