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Old 12-24-2012, 10:20 AM
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Good god..how much more can people take?! Right before fucking Christmas, too. People disgust me.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/12/24/us/new...html?hpt=hp_t1

Authorities believe one or more shooters took aim at the firefighters after they left their vehicles, Police Chief Gerald Pickering said.
New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo described it as a "horrific shooting" and a "senseless act of violence."
"Volunteer firefighters and police officers were injured and two were taken from us as they once again answered the call of duty," he said in a statement.
It was unclear whether there were any suspects.
"We have different individuals that were possible people with knowledge, but at this point I can't really comment," Monroe County Sheriff Patrick O'Flynn told reporters.
For hours, the gunfire stopped firefighters from working to extinguish the flames and forced police SWAT teams to evacuate homes in the area.


My first thought is they wanted to try and let burn whatever might have been in these houses. But you don't shoot and kill 2 innocent heroes for that. Bullshit.

Take a moment from your day to remember these 2 guys tomorrow morning.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:24 AM
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if they would just stop selling guns to law abiding citizens this wouldn't happen....wait that makes no sense at all..Oh well lets go with it anyhow
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:26 AM
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I hear you man, sometimes it seems the whole world is coming off it's hinges...Your lucky you don't have this crap happening in Canada.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:32 AM
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I am thankful I don't have this kind of shit happening here. And I am more so happy I don't read the US news as often as other people. Just browsing them now and saw some guy lost his gun in a movie theatre where 2 kids found it and reported it. Buddy had his CCP revoked for not reporting to the police that he lost is..but imagine if someone who was off-their rocker picked that up..maybe brought it home? Ya know what I mean. Scares me sometimes shit is like that.
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Old 12-24-2012, 10:48 AM
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There has been a shooting almost every day since the Connecticut School massacre. Even on that day, there was a Memphis police officer killed, but because the school shooting killed 27 people (I'm purposely leaving the gunman out) twenty-six which were innocent 5 year old kids, that story got most of the headlines. I always wonder if the media were to back off these major stories, if crazy gun-man would still go on a rampage, and my gut says "Yes". We just hear about violent stories more because of the media on t.v., and now social media, such as twitter and facebook, is everywhere. It is definitely sad that people trained to help others are killed the day before Christmas, and my heart aches for the families because the holidays will never be the same.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:15 AM
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That's absolutely terrible. I can't believe what the world is coming to. I hate the news, it's always bad. It can never be good news.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:23 AM
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That's absolutely terrible. I can't believe what the world is coming to. I hate the news, it's always bad. It can never be good news.
Good news is no news at all.

Now they are reporting it might have been a trap to shoot the firefighters? Wtf? I will be watching this..I want to see the out come. 4 homes done by the fire, 4 homes damaged and other shit like vehicles also caught on fire. Ouch.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:55 AM
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Good news is no news at all.
Now they are reporting it might have been a trap to shoot the firefighters? Wtf? I will be watching this..I want to see the out come. 4 homes done by the fire, 4 homes damaged and other shit like vehicles also caught on fire. Ouch.
One of our local radio stations has a saying, "When news stops, that is news". Anyway, it is sad that future firefighters may have to wait for police to search grounds first to make sure that the area is safe before attempting to put out the flames. Our local news is reporting that the apparent gunman is dead.
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Old 12-24-2012, 11:59 AM
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Gahh, its *******s like this that prevent good people from having some type of self protection.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:35 PM
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Gahh, its *******s like this that prevent good people from having some type of self protection.
In this case, you're right.

fifthranger, I listen to the local FD here, and every now and then they are told to arrive no lights, and park a block or 2 away and await for NRP(Niagara Regional Police, our local PD). They just kind of sigh and go "Ok, were waiting, active fire from our position". They wait..the PD comes, do what they do and then continue on with the procedure. And yes, I heard that the gunman is dead. Its unfortunate though, 9 times outta 10, the Police don't get to take the guy down..he takes his own life. I'd rather the PD do it.
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:40 PM
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fifthranger, I listen to the local FD here, and every now and then they are told to arrive no lights, and park a block or 2 away and await for NRP(Niagara Regional Police, our local PD). They just kind of sigh and go "Ok, were waiting, active fire from our position". They wait..the PD comes, do what they do and then continue on with the procedure. And yes, I heard that the gunman is dead. Its unfortunate though, 9 times outta 10, the Police don't get to take the guy down..he takes his own life. I'd rather the PD do it.
Sad as hell that the gunman was like that. Paramedics in the inner city faced a similar situation a couple weeks ago. A man called 9-1-1 saying that he "didn't feel well", and a dispatcher sent an ambulance. As the paramedics were heading to the front door, the man opened fire on them. I don't believe anyone was killed, and police responded, and I think they took him to the physc ward (spelling).
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Old 12-24-2012, 12:49 PM
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Sad as hell that the gunman was like that. Paramedics in the inner city faced a similar situation a couple weeks ago. A man called 9-1-1 saying that he "didn't feel well", and a dispatcher sent an ambulance. As the paramedics were heading to the front door, the man opened fire on them. I don't believe anyone was killed, and police responded, and I think they took him to the physc ward (spelling).
Wow, thats ridiculous. I just don't understand how people think like that. The people who do the most good take the most wrath.
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Old 12-24-2012, 01:21 PM
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Wow, thats ridiculous. I just don't understand how people think like that. The people who do the most good take the most wrath.
That is why mental illness gets a bad wrap. A legitimate portion of the population is mentally ill but wouldn't harm anyone or anything, yet most times a horrific crime is committed, the person tries to "plead innocent due to reason of insanity". Doesn't someone have to be insane to commit such a terrible act? A psychologist once said that only a fraction of the population is insane to commit such a terrible event, and the percentage according to him was 1/10 of 1%. Someone that methodically chooses victims and is able to plot an attack can not argue that he/she can't think straight. And, our justice system is too weak. Plenty of children play video games, dress as cowboys and indians, are beaten, etc., yet grow up perfectly normal into society while others don't play video games, don't dress as cowboys and indians, and aren't beaten, yet don't mature at an acceptable adult. Sad that there is no way to determine which individuals are most vulnerable and which will grow and become very nurturing members of society.
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Old 12-24-2012, 05:32 PM
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There is also such a thing as evil in the world. Some people do such things are perfectly sane but don't have a moral fiber in their body. Regardless as to whether the media or the psychiatrists want to admit it or not.

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There is also such a thing as evil in the world. Some people do such things are perfectly sane but don't have a moral fiber in their body. Regardless as to whether the media or the psychiatrists want to admit it or not.

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