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Old 10-03-2010, 09:51 PM
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Richard tried to prove you right, but God damnit if you aint determined to look like you dont know what youre talking about.
the thing is ... i do know what i'm talking about.

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Less weight means less rotational mass, needs less power to turn, so you have less parasitic draw of power, meaning you will see a bigger number on a dyno or a faster time on the track, also a softer compound tire can do essentially the same thing because it grips better pushing more power to the ground..
bwaaa it IS a softer tire, which is why we can't use it in the water :/ ife wrecked his goat by doing that .............. RIP GOAT!!!!
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:54 PM
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the thing is ... i do know what i'm talking about.



bwaaa it IS a softer tire, which is why we can't use it in the water :/ ife wrecked his goat by doing that .............. RIP GOAT!!!!
I know this, he knows that, but your previous statement didn't reflect that lol, I am just trying to explain how it works...
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I think Henry just shit himself
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Old 10-03-2010, 09:55 PM
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i understand how it works

believe me ... i've done my homework on this car. i've been tested ... by EVERYONE about this damn car. surprisingly i know my shit. hoooowwweeeevvverrrrr i'm in the process of doing 3 things at once. i'll bbl let me finish this crap up.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:04 PM
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i understand how it works

believe me ... i've done my homework on this car. i've been tested ... by EVERYONE about this damn car. surprisingly i know my shit. hoooowwweeeevvverrrrr i'm in the process of doing 3 things at once. i'll bbl let me finish this crap up.
Yeah, well my sammich comes first...mustard, no mayo.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:04 PM
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I'm not saying YOU would have made me jizz. I'm saying Rihanna would have.

Also, incredibad. Listen to it.
HAHAHAHA. "now lets take a trip down memory lane..." Friggin' love that album of theirs. EFFIN HALARIOUS
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:05 PM
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Yeah, well my sammich comes first...mustard, no mayo.
yea leme fed ex that before the ham/turkey/roast beast goes bad....
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:09 PM
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Less weight means less rotational mass, needs less power to turn, so you have less parasitic draw of power, meaning you will see a bigger number on a dyno or a faster time on the track, also a softer compound tire can do essentially the same thing because it grips better pushing more power to the ground..
That...made no sense (to me).

You're talking about weight, then about grip.

Granted, if she went from 18s to 15s, you could see a diff in launch, but the hps would remain the same. Less weight does not generate hps, to my knowledge. Both dyno methods do not take grip into consideration, hence me calling shenanigans on your theory ().


Course, i could be dead wrong, i'm not a mechanic by any means.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:11 PM
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That...made no sense (to me).

You're talking about weight, then about grip.

Granted, if she went from 18s to 15s, you could see a diff in launch, but the hps would remain the same. Less weight does not generate hps, to my knowledge. Both dyno methods do not take grip into consideration, hence me calling shenanigans on your theory ().


Course, i could be dead wrong, i'm not a mechanic by any means.
No, there is x amount of horsepower at your crank, there is a parasitic draw from your transmission, driveline and rear diff, as well as your tires, if you have a really heavy tire, extreme example a 44 inch bogger, you lose horsepower at the wheels *where I am making my point. compared to a 33 inch. You take of some of the rotational mass, or weight you are trying to spin and you will gain horsepower at your wheels.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:24 PM
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yea leme fed ex that before the ham/turkey/roast beast goes bad....
That'a girl.

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That...made no sense (to me).

You're talking about weight, then about grip.

Granted, if she went from 18s to 15s, you could see a diff in launch, but the hps would remain the same. Less weight does not generate hps, to my knowledge. Both dyno methods do not take grip into consideration, hence me calling shenanigans on your theory ().


Course, i could be dead wrong, i'm not a mechanic by any means.

Its not about gaining HP...its about losing less horsepower from the time it leaves the engine and gets to the wheels. So no, she didnt gain anymore HP...But less power was lost by the time it got to the wheels.


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Old 10-03-2010, 10:25 PM
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No, there is x amount of horsepower at your crank, there is a parasitic draw from your transmission, driveline and rear diff, as well as your tires, if you have a really heavy tire, extreme example a 44 inch bogger, you lose horsepower at the wheels *where I am making my point. compared to a 33 inch. You take of some of the rotational mass, or weight you are trying to spin and you will gain horsepower at your wheels.

But we're talking about a highly tuned car, no way such a radical change would have been done.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:26 PM
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But we're talking about a highly tuned car, no way such a radical change would have been done.
It would if she left out a street wheel to a track wheel
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:30 PM
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But we're talking about a highly tuned car, no way such a radical change would have been done.
When you're talking about 700hp...20 isnt that much...


hypothetical situation:

Engine makes:1000hp

only 700hp makes it to the wheels.

get some lighter wheels/tires/driveshaft and less power is lost. so more horsepower is gained at the wheels...Then engine is still making the same power...Its just a lot easier to turn a 20lbs wheel and tire than a 50lbs wheel and tire.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:33 PM
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When you're talking about 700hp...20 isnt that much...


hypothetical situation:

Engine makes:1000hp

only 700hp makes it to the wheels.

get some lighter wheels/tires/driveshaft and less power is lost. so more horsepower is gained at the wheels...Then engine is still making the same power...Its just a lot easier to turn a 20lbs wheel and tire than a 50lbs wheel and tire.
Thats what I've been saying, I'm talking wheel horse, not the flywheel
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:37 PM
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oh believe me i could give you the basics on this car ... it runs 550 hp on pump gas 720 on race gas. it used to be 700 but he got new ET Street Radials. running on pump, his boost is set to 18lbs. no nos kits, no bottles, no nothing ... only thing we use nos for is for racing during the summer to cool your shit off quick open a bottle right onto the engine and it'll cool it down and you're ready for the next run. thats just the basics ... no details for you guys
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It would if she left out a street wheel to a track wheel
Tires, not wheels.

At least, from the post. But re-reading it, i don't even know if he had the same tires before, only worn out. Dunno.
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Old 10-03-2010, 10:39 PM
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Thats what I've been saying, I'm talking wheel horse, not the flywheel
I know...but people's ears tend to clog (or eyes go blurry in this case) as soon as you use the word GAIN when talking about tires...they dont understand.







In other news, 4th and 5th gear are making hella rackett...If I let off the gas in either (even with the clutch pushed in) it sounds like I put a bunch of beer cans in a clothes dryer...and makes a stange noise almost constantly in 4th....Not quite as bad as when I take off the throttle, but it donw sound good...just started when it got cold out.
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