Put this in the weird news category. A naked college freshman caused a disturbance by banging on the window of the university security office and was shot and killed. Now, the mother is mad because she felt that he could have been subdued. While I feel very badly for her son, the article stated that police are reviewing the surveilance tape, and in his report, the officer indicated that the student was iratic and wouldn't calm down when requested. It will be interesting to see what toxicology reports indicate, and since only the officer and the individual involved know exactly what occurred, I think that it is premature for others to automatically assume force. What do others think? Sorry, the link wouldn't work, so I had to copy-and-paste the article.


After police shooting of naked college student, mother asks why

By Isolde Raftery, NBC News

A day after a naked student at the University of South Alabama was fatally shot in the chest by a campus security guard, his mother and friends are asking why no other means were used to subdue the 18-year-old.

According to a statement released by the university, an officer heard loud banging on the police station window early Saturday and left his post to investigate. The man banging on the window was Gilbert Thomas Collar, an 18-year-old freshman who had graduated high school the previous spring. He was naked.

Collar was a wrestler whose favorite quotation, according to his Facebook profile, was “Be easy.” His profile photo is of himself, sporting a skinny black tie and light facial hair, his arm wrapped around his mother.

According to the university statement, the officer “was confronted by a muscular, nude man who was acting erratically. The man repeatedly rushed and verbally challenged the officer in a fighting stance.”

The officer allegedly asked Collar to stop, but the young student chased him “in a threatening manner and ignored the officer’s repeated commands.”

That’s when the officer drew his police sidearm and shot Collar once, striking him in the chest.

Collar “got up once more and continued to challenge the officer further before collapsing and expiring,” the report said. The officer has been placed on paid administrative leave pending an investigation.

Collar’s mother told CNN she doesn’t understand why the officer had to shoot her son. Her son, she said, was 5-foot-7 and weighed 135 pounds.

“He was wearing no clothes and he was obviously not in his right mind,” Bonnie Collar said. “Obviously he was not armed. He was completely naked.”

Sophomore Tyler Kendrick was also dissatisfied.

"Really, it just upsets me that there's no other way to apprehend an unarmed student rather than shooting him. I don't understand that," Kendrick told The Associated Press.

Campus officials said the confrontation was recorded by security cameras. The video and other information has been turned over to the district attorney and the Mobile County Sheriff's Office, which will review the shooting.

A university spokesman declined to say Saturday whether Collar was under the influence of alcohol or drugs.

The University of South Alabama is in Mobile and serves 15,000 students

I'd probably rather kill someone than touch another mans penis. Just sayin.

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+1, and in all seriousness, this is a rather bizarre situation. Suspects have gotten killed by being tackled, tazed, and/or getting shot, and who's to say that if the police had a tazer, he wouldn't have died from that. I just watched Dark Blue with Kurt Russell a couple days ago, and I'd like to believe that most trained officers are both professional and sympathic. They do, however, have a duty and responsibility to control the situation and prevent it from escalating. I hope that the officer did the right thing, and the security tape provides information.

From reading the article it seams as if the officer had no other way to protect himself from the student who was trying to make the confrontation physical. From simply reading the article and not having any other information on the incident I would say that the officer acted within reason to protect himself. It's just too bad it ended with the kid dying.

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I wasn't there but I believe that the officer acted appropriately. Deadly force is the last resort so the officer had no other choice because other less lethal types of force apparently didn't work. Given that the student was naked, who know what he was under the influence of (my guess would be PCP). And someone that's on PCP, nothing will subdue them but deadly force.

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Exactly my reasoning, and I'm sure that with the officer on paid leave, which is customary with all police shootings, that all the evidence will be looked at. Also, what happened to the man's clothes? Was he trying to do something illegal, like rape, and stripped his clothes off or was he high on something and dillusional? It is easy for others to point the fingers without knowing any other info., such as whether he had a previous rap sheet or if this were an isolated incident that unfortunately resulted in his death.

My only thing is why must we shoot to kill? Shoot to disable then rush them to the hospital? Ie shoot them in the knee or ankle. I understand that's hard to do with a charging person but that is why police go under hours of training

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read my comment. If they can't physically get up, they can be subdued

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Trying to aim for a small target like a knee or ankle while your life is in danger is impossible. Officers are taught to shoot center mass (torso) because its the largest part of the body which makes it a large target. The training is to end the threat as quickly as possible, center mass mass shots will put someone down quick. And also, hands, arms, feet, legs are moving which makes it harder to aim at a moving target.

Just because they can't get up doesn't mean they can't be subdued. The suspect could be playing possum to get the officer(s) to engage them hands on so they can fight and try to get the officer's weapon. And he got back up, even after being shot so he wasn't unable to get up:

The officer allegedly asked Collar to stop, but the young student chased him “in a threatening manner and ignored the officer’s repeated commands.”

That’s when the officer drew his police sidearm and shot Collar once, striking him in the chest.

Collar “got up once more and continued to challenge the officer further before collapsing and expiring,” the report said.

Everything happens so fast that its hard to explain to someone who's never been in that situation. When you life is in danger, you do what you gotta do to be able to go home to your family. Some d***ass is not worth your life or the lives of fellow officers and civilians.

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As a hunter and gun owner (not a cop),I don't really consider the knee to be that small of a target, given the close proximity. I'm not arguing with your opinion. I would shoot whatever I can if I was scared enough but I am not trained to deal with high pressure situations

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We will see what the cameras show. I don't know what happened exactly...but based off what I've heard here, the officer was too quick to shoot and kill, imo.

The kid is 5 foot 7, 135lbs. Not a big individual...how big is the officer? Do they not carry tasers or batons? Those should have been used first.

Clearly the kid was unarmed. Crazy and high on drugs? Sounds like it. But there are other ways to stop him.

I have my CCW, carry everyday, and am testing with a few local sheriffs offices. Your firearm is the absolute last resort. Your life should be in immediate danger. That's why you don't shoot to injure...you shoot to kill.

who knows how much training this security officer has. He isnt a police officer. Sounds like he was overwhelmed during the encounter and didn't think straight. Now he might pay the price. Kinda a shame but that's the responsibility you take on with a job like that.

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Smells like a lawsuit. What a naked boy goin to use that caused the cop to use deadly force? beat him with his penis?

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I agree, but the fact that the kid got back up and continued to challenge the officer after he was shot shows that whatever he was under the influence of, less than lethal force was ineffective so deadly force was the last option.

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Yes but he didn't know that until it was too late and he killed the guy with that one shot

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Just because the article doesn't say he tried other methods doesn't mean he didn't try to use a tazer or baton.

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and? i post back to my shoot em in the knee. i know what it didnt say, i will be watching this thread to see what happens.

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