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Old 01-19-2010, 11:25 AM
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hey guys i just got my new puppy today she is a german shepherd/rot and im new to dogs. ive seen a few pics of peoples dogs on this forum and any advice on how to properly raise, feed, and train a new puppy would be greatly appreciated.
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Old 01-19-2010, 11:47 AM
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we feed our new golden retriever puppy like 2-3 times a day, breakfast lunch and dinner, they eat a ton! exercise is a must! at least 1 hour a day is the bare minimum, a tired puppy is a happy puppy. socialize your puppy with little kids, other dogs etc. that will avoid any mishaps later on like biting or growling at little kids. the four major commands to teach the dog when there are young are: Sit, Down, Come, and Heel. all other commands rely on those 4. you have to be assertive, the dog is looking to see who is the pack leader, the more structure, the better behaved the dog will be, it will listen to the alpha, beta, etc. the dog is always the lowest on the totem pole. positive reinforcement works much better than negative, if they are chewing on something, tell them NO, but then show them what they can chew on. Dont repeat yourself too much, if you have to say sit 5 times, they will learn to sit on the 5th time you say it lol. Always give you dog something challenging to do, like find a toy, get a treat out of a toy. it keeps their mind stimulated and makes them smarter.
Good luck with the puppy! we need pics!
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I was hoping to see pics of a new puppy...
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Old 01-20-2010, 09:07 AM
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once my dad gets home ill post some pics. and thanks a lot for the advice very helpful
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:25 AM
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no problem! we're training our puppy right now so we're going through all this also lol. one really good rule of thumb: take the dog out to pee everytime you leave the house and everytime you come home. our pup is almost fully housebroken and she is only 6 months, so the younger you start with all this, the easier it gets. also, like around 8 months is when the puppy will get a teenager frame of mind and do everything you don't want it to do just to try you. dont give up on it though, itll only last a couple months and reassert yourself, it makes it easier.
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:55 AM
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We crate trained ours, and read a book called jan fennal dog listener, the book was awesome and supports all of cesar Millans training methods.

Examples:

You eat before the dog, pretend to eat from his bowel: this enforces you are alpha male of the pack, he eats when your finished.
We put paper towel on top of his puppy biscuits, then put some cereal on top of the paper, cody out puppy thought my daugher was actually eating his food, he would go totally mental, we would all pretend to eat from his bowel and after a few weeks he started to figure out his place in our pack, it sounds bizzare and some might say cruel but it just helps them figure out who is boss.

He will NEVER help himself to food now, he will sit to attention for his food, and only eat when we click our fingers.
My wife actually put food in his bowel one morning and i was asleep upstairs, i got up 2 hours after she had left and came down to a pool of drool and the poor dog waiting to be given the command to eat.....LOL
She felt awful poor bloody dog never touched it!

When feeding, remove food half way through, your in charge and food possession is dangerous, put your hand in the bowl play with the food, take it away and give it back. best to do this as a puppy for obvious reasons, its harder to do it with larger more mature dogs again for obvious reasons!

Only let him have his feeds when he is calm, that way you reinforce positive behavior with rewards, I only do the taking food and toys off him now and again now but use to do it all the time as a puppy.
Even my mum took his food off him last week, he only met her twice!! not so much as a growl or snarl.

You enter and exit the house before him, you, your wife kids and everyone else enter and exit first, pref the kids first: this will again ensure the do knows who is in charge and pack leader.

Only give a command once: giving the command over and over will just cement the idea that he can do the action on the 1at or 105th time!!

Crate training worked great for us, we house broke him in 2 weeks pretty much, it's his safe place, he is forced to learn to hold his bladder and poo till you let him out of the house, as he won't want to soil his bed, just ensure you let him out every hour or two so he can empty his bladder, when he does it outside give him LOTS of love praise and a treat!!
When he learns that he gets treats and praise for doing it outside then he will try his best to hold it!
if he pee's in the house, just ignore it and clean it up, no scalding or smacking, you need to gain his trust as early as you can.
Remember to ignore the bad, praise the good, its hard though and i admit i smacked Cody on his arse a few times but it never really did anything but make him distrust me.
I would say never smack a dog, raise your hand to it, only did it a couple of times and regret it, its not necessary at all if you train them properly from day one. (i know this now!)

He will soon learn good things get treats.

Ignore bad behavior, always ignore him when you enter the house, wait till he is calm and sitting before you pet him, again if you pet him when he is jumping up and excited then you are just encouraging this behavior and it's not good!!!
Your dog is gonna be BIG!! if he jumps at a child your gonna be in deep shit lol

Socialize him all the time too, go out of your way to bump into other dogs so he learns to be sociable!!

Hope some of this helps you, it's stuff I read and learned and it really paid off for us.
My 4yr old rules this pac, she is always first in and out of the house and car, gives him food, treats and water, he thinks she is pack leader which is very important from a safety aspect.

SHIT that took ages to write, I did this on my bloody phone!

LOL

Good luck mate!!
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Old 01-20-2010, 10:57 AM
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Also what Surfer said it perfect advice, specially the exercise part.
A distructive dog is nearly always a bored dog.
He gave some great advice there!!
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Old 01-20-2010, 03:45 PM
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wow thanks a bunch. lol i bet that took foooooorever to type on the cellular. if its not to much to ask, what do u mean by crate training?
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cage=crate
we do it too. it is really nice because it gives the dog a safe place away from all the commotion. they feel much safer in it, it basically becomes their little bedroom. my puppy is now going into the crate on her own to take naps and stuff and get away from people if shes tired. it also prevents accidents when your gone for extended periods of time.
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my puppy and her bedroom:
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Yea it bloody did!! haha

Again agreed with surfer, I put a blanket over Codys cage/crate so he settled faster with no distractions, i still secure him in it during the day if I'm out for more that a few hours because it keeps him out of trouble, he's roaming the house at night though or sleeping but never locked in it in the evening, just during the day for a few hours because he's young and stupid haha
if you do go down the crate or cage route read up on it, make sure it's not to big or he will just poo and pee at one end and live in the other (ours did that) so we had to turn it on it's end (it had a few enterances) and it made him learn to hold himself till wert him out (you HAVE to do this regular) also when you introduce the crate, put treats in there, pet him, even feed him in there so it encourages him to go there and it's his safe place.
Never tell him off and send him there or he will think every time he goes in that he's been bad, it sends mixed messages and will confuse him.
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definately x2 on that stevie^
i feed my puppy in there every meal, you dont want the cage to be a punishment.

lol, we should sticky this in the how to section "How to: Raise Puppy"
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definately x2 on that stevie^
i feed my puppy in there every meal, you dont want the cage to be a punishment.

lol, we should sticky this in the how to section Puppy"
Haha!

Yea get it stuck!! you have more pull than me round here Conor!!

You wait,....... I give it a week and someone will start a " "How to train your wife" thread !!
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hey guys, im havin a real hard time training my dog to walk with me on a leash, any tips on how to train her? and do you guys ever tie your dog up on her leash somewhere in the house to get her to calm down?
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Old 01-23-2010, 09:35 AM
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hold the leash firmly against your stomach, dont pull, just hold it so that it doesnt move. this will show the dog that your walking him, not the other way around. also, you can get a treat and put some peanut butter on it, then hold that treat in your other hand around your stomach also, let the dog know the treat is there. that way they focus on you and not trying to pull everywhere.
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