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Old 10-20-2011, 06:21 AM
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gtr is an entry level exotic, like a Porsche. Most lower level Porsche sure as hell aren't considered supercars, so I don't see this gtr as being one either. Not terribly expensive, solid performance but it isn't a supercar. Supercars and exotics are called that not just for their performance, but for their status; cost and rarity would play a major factor here. For the money though, z06/z07; around a track the vette is faster.
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:26 AM
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i would disagree. i think it is TONS better than the last gen skyline/ infinity G series. for 90k it is hard as balls to get a car with a hand built motor in a clean room as well as a transmission that is matched to the exact engine in your car. plus some cars have been dyno'd with over 500 wheel horsepower stock. they perform very well, except for the launch control and transmission issues they were having, but on track days they seem to handle buttonwillow/ willow springs very well. interior is very nice, but then again everything is when you're used to driving a ford with dirt everywhere. plus it just looks stunning, from the 4 exhaust tips and circular tail lights in the rear to the huge rims, low stance, and the whole front clip. i love it.

from a tuning perspective i don't think much else is needed to be done. maybe exhaust to delete the cats, but when you have a car that nissan has engineered to be cutting edge, throwing turbos or other power adders at it seems so.... elementary. there are a lot of 'super' cars out there that are built more for looks and status than performance, where as nissan seems to have hit both square on the head with this car.
exactly what i said man!

check this out. shows how capable the r35 actually is in regards to performance
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Old 10-20-2011, 07:35 AM
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Ehhhhhhh. Supercar.. I dont think so... Bad ass car.. Hell yes!!! I would drive one if I had tge 90k lol but I don't... So instead I will park my truck ontop of one.
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:15 PM
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Top Super car: Bugatti Veyron (Italian name, designed by Germany, Built in France)

But I would consider a GTR in the same company as the Veyron. Both have a 0-60 in under 3 seconds. Which only one other car, the 2011 Porsche 911 Turbo S is in that group as well. AWD vehicle with launch control capabilities that has a 0-60 mph in under 3 seconds? I'm game, but I just don't have $90k to spend.
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:23 PM
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The GTR is in the same category with 911 turbos, z06 vettes, and srt vipers, it's a supercar, compared to the challenger, mustang and Camaro, it's a luxury car, with a hint of performance in the luxury, I've seen them, driven the Nismo edition, and I have to say it's my favorite "new" car.

And I will own one
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Old 10-20-2011, 12:30 PM
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Today's technology makes cars greener, safer and more economical. It does not make them faster. There is no substitute for an old fashioned, closed deck block with big turbo.
launch control and things of those like how get the power to the ground though. no point in having a high horsepower car if all you can do is spin the tires trying to get off the line, or drift every corner of a track.

don't get me wrong, i have several friends with boosted cars, n/a cars, track cars, and have been down to jim wolf technology with a friend a few times about them tuning his sr20det in his car. i know some, but am by no means an expert. high horsepower is awesome, and nothing beats the sound of a turbo or supercharger. but take Top Gear UK for an example. they have these high end bling wazzoo cars on there all the time, some can put the power down and others can barely keep the headlights pointed forward.
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Old 10-20-2011, 02:12 PM
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launch control and things of those like how get the power to the ground though. no point in having a high horsepower car if all you can do is spin the tires trying to get off the line, or drift every corner of a track.

don't get me wrong, i have several friends with boosted cars, n/a cars, track cars, and have been down to jim wolf technology with a friend a few times about them tuning his sr20det in his car. i know some, but am by no means an expert. high horsepower is awesome, and nothing beats the sound of a turbo or supercharger. but take Top Gear UK for an example. they have these high end bling wazzoo cars on there all the time, some can put the power down and others can barely keep the headlights pointed forward.
Launch control is really nothing new. Mitsubishi has a 5000rpm limiter under 5mph which they've used for years as a "launch control" The nice thing about this is if you download openecu (on google for free) you can adjust your 2 step rev limit.
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The dodge chargers have a 3k rev limit
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Old 10-20-2011, 02:39 PM
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The dodge chargers have a 3k rev limit
With a 2 Liter and a big turbo you need 5000rpm to get any initial boost so the car does not bog down when 4 tires try and move 3100lbs of mass. With a bigger turbo you need even more rpm, heat and pressure on the turbine to get going quickly. A big dodge V8 with 3 times the displacement makes enough torque to get a 4000lb car going at only 3000rpm.

Also, there is no "SKYLINE GTR" in the USA. The SKYLINE GTR refers to the japanese only version. Mostly these are regarded as the R32, 33 and 34. The name "SKYLINE" left the car in 2002 when production stopped. "Nissan Skyline" and "Nissan Skyline GTR" are different cars. The Standard Skyline was a rear wheel drive car with a 2.5L RB25DET. The GTR version had the 2.6 RB26DETT with 4 wheel drive. These GTR's are basically rear wheel drive, until the ATESSA system recognizes slippage, and engages the front wheel drive. This is the exact opposite you see in nearly all cars labeled as "AWD" in the USA today. Today, the front wheels on most of the cars do the driving, and the rear wheels kick in when slippage is detected. When the G35 came out (same platform as the 350Z) this car was badged as "Nissan Skyline" in Japan and "Infinity G35" in the USA (only rear wheel drive, V6, naturally aspirated) The new GTR (2008+) is common across the globe and is only available with V6 Turbo and AWD.

Most of this is not known (in America)

Myself, I prefer real, all the time, 4wd (like the Evolutions & WRX's) where all 4 wheels are always driving the car (with the use of multiple, mechanical differentials) - this way the 4WD is preventing the tires from slipping, instead of reacting to slipping to correct it. (same setup as a 4WD Ranger, or mostly any real truck for that matter)
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Old 10-20-2011, 03:54 PM
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The dodge chargers have a 3k rev limit
Revving an engine with no load (in nuetral) can cause damage if overdone. This is why companies have rev limiters installed when in neutral and when in gear.
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:00 PM
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Most of this is not known (in America)
i've seen a few imported skylines over here from the last generation (g35 ones). there's one student at UC Irvine who has one that i was talking to about it, he said he paid a boat load to have it brought over and registered here instead of getting a US spec car. crazy people with their money. it's always weird seeing a japanese spec car in the US, but gives me hours of reading to do on them lol
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i've seen a few imported skylines over here from the last generation (g35 ones). there's one student at UC Irvine who has one that i was talking to about it, he said he paid a boat load to have it brought over and registered here instead of getting a US spec car. crazy people with their money. it's always weird seeing a japanese spec car in the US, but gives me hours of reading to do on them lol
R35 is the new GT-R, you're thinking of the R34(00-02), R33(97-99), R32(92-96
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Old 10-20-2011, 04:10 PM
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When the G35 came out (same platform as the 350Z) this car was badged as "Nissan Skyline" in Japan and "Infinity G35" in the USA (only rear wheel drive, V6, naturally aspirated).
i'm thinking of this one, which to me is the last generation skyline.
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That car was a piece of shit, if I could find an r34 in the state for a reasonable price, I'd sell the ranger, coma and vette to buy it. Love those cars.
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some people are sentimental i guess. it'd probably be a small price to pay to have a comfortable piece of home come with you half way around the world.
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