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Old 09-14-2011, 11:24 AM
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Apparently, the GOP thinks that banning gay marriage and deporting illegal immigrants will stop divorce, fix our education system, create jobs, save the environment and pay off the national debt. Scapegoating minorities is common during economic downturns. It happened in Germany. Ask them how many jobs were created at the concentration camps. This rhetoric disgusts me.Also, letting voters in N.C. Vote to ban gay marriage is like letting voters in Jackson, Mississippi vote on whether or not blacks should be able to use the same water fountains as whites in the 1960s. They make it sound so American and democratic, but this is not ethical treatment of citizens of the United States of America. It is not our place to judge, and this blatant discrimination should make people embarrassed this is occurring in the 21st century. P.S. The Germany comment was an extreme example, but it is a clear example of what right wing extremism is capable of. I feel we are going backwards as a country and giving into fear and ignorance instead of embracing humanity as the Bible commands us to do. It says to love your neighbor as yourself. When asked who our neighbor is, Jesus replied with the parable of the Good Samaritan. The Samaritans were a hated, discriminated against, race of half-breeds. Jesus was saying we should love and help the people we hate. I don't know of a group more hated and discriminated against by the church than homosexuals other than maybe women who have abortions. If we followed Christ's teachings, I shouldn't be able to make a statement like that. So, you have to look at the motivation of the Republicans for trying to push through this anti-gay marriage legislation when we have much more pressing issues like the future of our entire country at stake. They must either think banning gay marriage will save our country or the other option is they could care less about our future as long as they get their way in the present.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:29 AM
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^totally changed the subject.

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Old 09-14-2011, 11:32 AM
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^totally changed the subject.

I can do that too..

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Not Changing the Subject that was already done by you and others when you started talking about me and not the Topic at hand.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:32 AM
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^totally changed the subject.

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I have one right meow...
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:37 AM
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First reasonable thing i have read in all of this.
Including your first original unreasonable post that started this thread. Pretty ironic.


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Well that drove this one off topic. You just went from healthcare to racism to genocide to sexual orientation in one post.

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Not Changing the Subject that was already done by you and others when you started talking about me and not the Topic at hand.
YOU became the topic at hand when you made up the original topic. You tried to start a rant based on misrepresenting the content of a news article. Since nobody else here is stupid enough to fall for it and read the entire article for ourselves, you failed. Sorry, the topic became about you because you made it that way.
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Old 09-14-2011, 11:40 AM
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Apparently, the GOP thinks that banning gay marriage and deporting illegal immigrants will stop divorce, fix our education system, create jobs, save the environment and pay off the national debt. Scapegoating minorities is common during economic downturns. It happened in Germany. Ask them how many jobs were created at the concentration camps. This rhetoric disgusts me.Also, letting voters in N.C. Vote to ban gay marriage is like letting voters in Jackson, Mississippi vote on whether or not blacks should be able to use the same water fountains as whites in the 1960s. They make it sound so American and democratic, but this is not ethical treatment of citizens of the United States of America. It is not our place to judge, and this blatant discrimination should make people embarrassed this is occurring in the 21st century. P.S. The Germany comment was an extreme example, but it is a clear example of what right wing extremism is capable of. I feel we are going backwards as a country and giving into fear and ignorance instead of embracing humanity as the Bible commands us to do. It says to love your neighbor as yourself. When asked who our neighbor is, Jesus replied with the parable of the Good Samaritan. The Samaritans were a hated, discriminated against, race of half-breeds. Jesus was saying we should love and help the people we hate. I don't know of a group more hated and discriminated against by the church than homosexuals other than maybe women who have abortions. If we followed Christ's teachings, I shouldn't be able to make a statement like that. So, you have to look at the motivation of the Republicans for trying to push through this anti-gay marriage legislation when we have much more pressing issues like the future of our entire country at stake. They must either think banning gay marriage will save our country or the other option is they could care less about our future as long as they get their way in the present.
You know I usually don't get involved in political discussions but this is one that I think I will put my two cents worth in.

This is America Home of the Free and Land of the Brave, which translates to if you want to enjoy the freedoms of this country then you are going to have to work for it, and if you aren't willing to be brave and take the chances in life then get the hell out.

I have to agree that the government needs to get its nose the hell out of everything and start running the government and not everything else. This country is so conserened about taking care of all the pour bastard that wont get off their ass and work that it makes me sick.

Now lets look at a couple things here. You say that people are complaining about the minorities that are here illegally and they shouldn't. Well lets see they come here, take jobs that granted most Americans don't want to do, and then don't pay taxes on the money they earn, don't pay for their own health care which then the tax payers have to pick up the check on, and are given government assistance because they have one kid inside the borders, once again the tax payers are picking up that check.

Why don't you open your eyes and see that things are getting out of hand because people like you read to much into shit and misinterpret it causing more problems.

The only thing that I have left to say is that if you want to live in a country where everything is equal, then since you are in Florida get into a rubber dingy and paddle your ass down to Cuba.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:07 PM
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Well if our country would implement a flat tax it wouldn't really be nessasary now would it. As everyone would pay from the poor to the Rich to the legals to the illegals to the drug dealers.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:14 PM
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Well if our country would implement a flat tax it wouldn't really be nessasary now would it. As everyone would pay from the poor to the Rich to the legals to the illegals to the drug dealers.
I guess I am stupid, how will a flat tax be any different? Those that don't pay taxes now ant take advantage of the system wouldn't pay taxes with a flat tax either so how will this help?

Also as a side note, healthcare like most everything else in the country is a privilege not a right.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:21 PM
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I guess I am stupid, how will a flat tax be any different? Those that don't pay taxes now ant take advantage of the system wouldn't pay taxes with a flat tax either so how will this help?

Also as a side note, healthcare like most everything else in the country is a privilege not a right.
Its one straight tax that you pay when you buy anything if you spend any money you basically pay on the tax.

I find it funny People are so against change even if it is for the better.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:25 PM
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How bout we have an option on our paychecks stating "donate this much to the less forunates medical bills". If you want to give GIVE, bet both tea party and liberals would leave the spot ZERO. Lets make Mexico pay the bills!
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:26 PM
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Its one straight tax that you pay when you buy anything if you spend any money you basically pay on the tax.

I find it funny People are so against change even if it is for the better.
That's called a Value added tax, or Consumption tax.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:28 PM
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That's called a Value added tax, or Consumption tax.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:33 PM
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Its one straight tax that you pay when you buy anything if you spend any money you basically pay on the tax.

I find it funny People are so against change even if it is for the better.
OK so a flat tax of say 30% across the board. This just increased the price of everything in the country from food to houses. Even though people no longer are taxed on their pay check, (unless you still what that in place), that were paying 15% taxes now will have to pay more for what they were buying before. Now you think 30% on $1.00 is $0.30 but now 30% on a $200,000 house is $60,000. Where are people going to come up with that? Since the tax is higher people will buy less product causing the costs of those items to go up since the manufactures are selling as much. This will then cause the taxes to increase since not as many items are being sold. Since money won't buy as much more people will quit working due to either not caring and relying on the system or getting laid off and relying on the system because the can't find another job. This will continue in a downward spiral until the system collapses. This is know as socialism for those that have no idea about economics.

I am not afraid of change, in fact I am all for it, but when it means that I have to work harder to support people others rather than myself then I have a problem with it.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:35 PM
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First off I dont beleive in parties. I beleive in the constitution. And I have the right to not pay for your fucking healthcare.
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Old 09-14-2011, 02:43 PM
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If you Truly think that is Socialism then that makes most of the known world as socialism. As Germany and UK and France all have a flat tax.

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First off I dont beleive in parties. I beleive in the constitution. And I have the right to not pay for your fucking healthcare.
Never said ya did as i have my own health care through my work this isn't even about paying for healthcare or not. This was about letting someone who is in a Coma die because they don't have health insurance my god do you read?
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