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Old 07-24-2011, 08:07 AM
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Default Pharmacist sentanced to life in prison...

I guess these guys came up in this guys parmacy, armed. The guy working shot one of them. He shot the kid once then 5 more times and killed him. I for one think he was in the right, that kid got what he deserved. You dont go pull a gun and try to rob someone.


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Old 07-24-2011, 08:15 AM
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Yup I call BS on this but then again...there might be more to the story, and the real question is why did he shoot 6 rounds into the kid...I can't believe he get life...I thought he would get some time for the over kill but life that is just inviting criminals to come in and then the other person not be able to protect themselves for fear of them getting into trouble for protecting themselves...
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:26 AM
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The overkill may have been unnecassary. Its always, "let make an example out of this guy" How about, "lets make an example of the dead guy" Let these low lifes know that if you go and pull a gun and you get shot and die, thats alright. The law protects the crimanls so much. It makes me sick. Lets move this situation to texas, lets change the black boy to a white male. This guy would have gotten off. Hell, even if the kid was white, the guy would have most likely either gotten off or had a lighter sentance. I garuntee its casue the kid was black....
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:28 AM
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Oh I know what I don't agree with what happened to the guy...and I also agree with what you said its likes hang this guy so others won't do it and we do protect criminals too much also...But IMO when I first read the news story a while back I figured he would get like 2 to 4 for some lower crime, and get the sentence suspended and be on probation.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:31 AM
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Yup I call BS on this but then again...there might be more to the story, and the real question is why did he shoot 6 rounds into the kid...I can't believe he get life...I thought he would get some time for the over kill but life that is just inviting criminals to come in and then the other person not be able to protect themselves for fear of them getting into trouble for protecting themselves...
If I recall correctly, there were two robbers, one of them had a gun. He shot the one without a gun in the head, knocking him to the ground and making him go unconscious. He then chased the guy who had the gun for a few minutes, then walked back into the store, went to get a second gun, loaded the gun, and shot the unconscious guy 5 times.

Self defense ends when the threat ends. He probably wasn't able to make a convincing argument that he felt threatened considering he felt comfortable enough to walk past him twice, then casually walked up to him, and shot him point blank 5 more times.

IMHO, he shouldn't have received life in prison but this went a bit beyond self defense.
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:32 AM
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thats messed up, protect yourself and get life in jail...
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:43 AM
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thats messed up, protect yourself and get life in jail...
The robber was unarmed and unconscious .
There was NO threat after chasing the others out.
He Should have tied the guy up and called the police,
But to shoot him an EXTRA 5 times?!!!
Just an extra one in the legs would have been over the top!
Talk about kicking someone when they are down !
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Old 07-24-2011, 08:48 AM
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If I recall correctly, there were two robbers, one of them had a gun. He shot the one without a gun in the head, knocking him to the ground and making him go unconscious. He then chased the guy who had the gun for a few minutes, then walked back into the store, went to get a second gun, loaded the gun, and shot the unconscious guy 5 times.

Self defense ends when the threat ends. He probably wasn't able to make a convincing argument that he felt threatened considering he felt comfortable enough to walk past him twice, then casually walked up to him, and shot him point blank 5 more times.

IMHO, he should have received life in prison but this went a bit beyond self defense.
fixed that for you, i agree with everything else.

I understand that your adreanaline gets pumping in a situation, but this case was taken to an extreme. I've followed this case since day one and its bad for the rest of the gun carrying community. This pharmacist eliminated the threat, then came back and senselessly killed the assailant. He WAS OUT OF DANGER. The threat had been neutralized, there was no need to shoot him 5 more times.

Quite honestly, it makes people like me look bad. I carry every day, if a threat presents itsself you try to get away WITHOUT taking a life. When my gun comes out, someone isn't going to be walking away, but by no means am i going to come back AFTER taking him down and make sure he's dead. Personally, i think that guy earned his life sentence. The initial shots that he fired cleared any threat that was there, had he left it at that there wouldnt be an issue and it would have been a justified shoot.

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Old 07-24-2011, 09:05 AM
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thats messed up, protect yourself and get life in jail...
He is not being jailed for protecting himself. He is being jailed for murdering the unconscious suspect AFTER he was done defending himself. You can't do that. It's murder, even if the person does kinda deserve it.
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Old 07-24-2011, 09:52 AM
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fixed that for you, i agree with everything else.

I understand that your adreanaline gets pumping in a situation, but this case was taken to an extreme. I've followed this case since day one and its bad for the rest of the gun carrying community. This pharmacist eliminated the threat, then came back and senselessly killed the assailant. He WAS OUT OF DANGER. The threat had been neutralized, there was no need to shoot him 5 more times.

Quite honestly, it makes people like me look bad. I carry every day, if a threat presents itsself you try to get away WITHOUT taking a life. When my gun comes out, someone isn't going to be walking away, but by no means am i going to come back AFTER taking him down and make sure he's dead. Personally, i think that guy earned his life sentence. The initial shots that he fired cleared any threat that was there, had he left it at that there wouldnt be an issue and it would have been a justified shoot.

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Old 07-24-2011, 10:03 AM
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being a CPL holder, I 100% agree with Drew all the advance legal classes you can take teach you that after the threat is gone you can not charge after the the person and start firing, at that point you are the threat.

I encourage anyone that is a CPL holder to take advance courses and learn what your law consists of. yes there is a possibility you might be alive after an outcome but try and keep yourself out of jail also
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Old 07-24-2011, 10:11 AM
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fixed that for you, i agree with everything else.

I understand that your adreanaline gets pumping in a situation, but this case was taken to an extreme. I've followed this case since day one and its bad for the rest of the gun carrying community. This pharmacist eliminated the threat, then came back and senselessly killed the assailant. He WAS OUT OF DANGER. The threat had been neutralized, there was no need to shoot him 5 more times.

Quite honestly, it makes people like me look bad. I carry every day, if a threat presents itsself you try to get away WITHOUT taking a life. When my gun comes out, someone isn't going to be walking away, but by no means am i going to come back AFTER taking him down and make sure he's dead. Personally, i think that guy earned his life sentence. The initial shots that he fired cleared any threat that was there, had he left it at that there wouldnt be an issue and it would have been a justified shoot.

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In Florida if you feel like your Life is Geniounly in danger and you fear for your life you can use any means necessary to protect yourself.
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In Florida if you feel like your Life is Geniounly in danger and you fear for your life you can use any means necessary to protect yourself.
That does not mean shoot a guy run past him chasing another guy, walk back and get a gun and shoot him 5 more times when he is laying there not a threat.
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Self defense is not in question. It's his actions AFTER defending himself that were in question and resulting in he being locked up.
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