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Old 06-22-2011, 06:28 PM
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hell ya bro, its my dads 3rd deployment in 3 yrs, he plans on retireing when he comes home, he says 3 times is 2 times too many...
what branch is he in?
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:30 PM
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:31 PM
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good to go, well thank him for his service man.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:33 PM
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all right man, he may see this, i telll him to go on this website everynow and then, look at the pics of my trucks progress ha. but
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:35 PM
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i keep my political viws to myself but i can say i dont like him or his views and all i hear out of his mouth is lies
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:37 PM
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Cool man, tell him were all pulling for him.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:38 PM
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i kno from an insiders pov, that obama isnt lieing, but hesss exagerating greatly at the progress made, he nor most americans really have no idea how stone aged thesse pple are, in most other countries our country wld make a difference, but when these ppple choose to wipe their asses with their hands or sand over tp, thers no helping them
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:41 PM
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yeh man, Ive studied their culture, most americans have no idea what they beleive and how they actually live. Its pretty crazy.
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Old 06-22-2011, 06:45 PM
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it is literally insane how these pple live, from the stories my dad tell me. and the sad part is that these pple dont want to change for the btr either...
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it is literally insane how these pple live, from the stories my dad tell me. and the sad part is that these pple dont want to change for the btr either...
EXACTLY. Unless we're going after people who are actually planning or assisting in attacks on the US, we need to stop trying to change the way they are, always have been, and always will be. If they want to blow themselves up all day long, let them.
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Old 06-22-2011, 07:49 PM
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i kno from an insiders pov, that obama isnt lieing, but hesss exagerating greatly at the progress made, he nor most americans really have no idea how stone aged thesse pple are, in most other countries our country wld make a difference, but when these ppple choose to wipe their asses with their hands or sand over tp, thers no helping them
You can't lump an entire country like that. Afghanistan has their own airliners, train companies, cell phone providers, etc. They aren't living in the stone age. Sure, many of them live a lifestyle that many of us would view as primitive compared to ours, but most of them do so by choice.

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it is literally insane how these pple live, from the stories my dad tell me. and the sad part is that these pple dont want to change for the btr either...
IMHO this is one of the biggest falsehoods to project onto others. Just because we view what we do as "better" doesn't mean it is. Trying to forcefully change peoples habits because we don't understand them is not the way to go.
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He had a speech? Must have missed it...and if I knew about it I would not have watched as he is a joke...
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Old 06-24-2011, 12:50 PM
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You can't lump an entire country like that. Afghanistan has their own airliners, train companies, cell phone providers, etc. They aren't living in the stone age. Sure, many of them live a lifestyle that many of us would view as primitive compared to ours, but most of them do so by choice.



IMHO this is one of the biggest falsehoods to project onto others. Just because we view what we do as "better" doesn't mean it is. Trying to forcefully change peoples habits because we don't understand them is not the way to go.

^^^ dude for one, did you kno that there is only 1, yes 1, paved road in the entire country, the u.s. jus built a 200mil $ powerplant that the afghan gov can only run for aprox 4 days b4 runnin into money issues... a huge portion of the population has no running water, nor electricity, they live in mud huts, there number one crop is opium(or however u spel it) these people still are very much i the stone age...

and im perfectly fine with them staying the way they are, but when the way they are leads to their ideology having them blow the western world to bits, i have a problem with that
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Old 06-24-2011, 02:11 PM
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^^^ dude for one, did you kno that there is only 1, yes 1, paved road in the entire country, the u.s. jus built a 200mil $ powerplant that the afghan gov can only run for aprox 4 days b4 runnin into money issues... a huge portion of the population has no running water, nor electricity, they live in mud huts, there number one crop is opium(or however u spel it) these people still are very much i the stone age...

and im perfectly fine with them staying the way they are, but when the way they are leads to their ideology having them blow the western world to bits, i have a problem with that
They have more than one paved road. Here is a wikipedia page that may interest you, it has a list of their highways and whatnot (most built in the 60s):
Also according to that they have about 50 airports in their country.

As a whole we are far more developed as a country than they are, I completely agree. I just disagree with the notion that it's so wrong that they don't want to change for the "better." They, like us, probably have pride in their culture, their communities, and the way they do things. What we view as better, they could likely view as worse.
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I dont believe anything that he says.........
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