Osama Bin Laden is Dead - Page 9

WildlandFirefighter · #**121** 05-04-2011, 07:06 PM

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I agree with most of your points. But, here is why they killed Osama. If he were kept alive, there would have been X number of people kidnapped and held for ransom. The kidnappers would have threatened to kill the kidnapees unless Osama was released. By killing him, and burying his body at sea, they have eliminated this issue, and the potential issue of people visiting his grave site and forming mobs.

Rrrrrrealllly nowww.....

Dude, they are ever more pissed since he is "supposedly" dead. This is suppose to be the head man of the "terrorist organization". It's like someone killing the Mafias Don head man. This will cause an outrage and cause more murdering.

Dude, they also were kidnapping people before Osama was dead so there is no excuse.

ObsoleteE · #**122** 05-04-2011, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by WildlandFirefighter

Rrrrrrealllly nowww.....

Dude, they are ever more pissed since he is "supposedly" dead. This is suppose to be the head man of the "terrorist organization". It's like someone killing the Mafias Don head man. This will cause an outrage and cause more murdering.

Dude, they also were kidnapping people before Osama was dead so there is no excuse.

They would have been pissed either way, this way was the best scenario. I know people were being kidnapped beforehand, and will continue to be kidnapped now, but this scenario will eliminate those certain stipulations and a whole lot of drama associated with them because there would be no way he would ever be released if he were captured alive.

FireRanger · #**123** 05-04-2011, 07:10 PM

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OMFG.....it's like I'm talkin to my brother's kids or somethin.

So because I and others here don't agree with your opinion, we're all childish fools that don't know what we're talking about? Why should your opinion be held any higher than mine or the next guys?

You can have whatever opinion you want. You can even have a pissed off mildly radical opinion like you happen to have. Not a lot of people will agree with you. Either learn to accept that or don't talk about it at all. Insulting everyone that doesn't fall in line with your political opinions will just make you more enemies.

WildlandFirefighter · #**124** 05-04-2011, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by ObsoleteE

They would have been pissed either way, this way was the best scenario. I know people were being kidnapped beforehand, and will continue to be kidnapped now, but this scenario will eliminate those certain stipulations and a whole lot of drama associated with them because there would be no way he would ever be released if he were captured alive.

Yes, pissed either way but more now since he is "supposedly" dead.

It's like if someone killed our most favorite President. People would be more angrier than knowing he is only kidnapped and that he could possibly escape from the enemies.

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So because I and others here don't agree with your opinion, we're all childish fools that don't know what we're talking about? Why should your [B]opinion[B] be held any higher than mine or the next guys?

You can have whatever opinion you want. You can even have a pissed off mildly radical opinion like you happen to have. Not a lot of people will agree with you. Either learn to accept that or don't talk about it at all. Insulting everyone that doesn't fall in line with your political opinions will just make you more enemies.

1) I'm not making a political opinion. Screw this political crap.

2) How haybo was talking was childish but I wasn't talking about HAYBO or anyone of you. Can't you read? I was talking about Obama and this media crap changing stories!

3) I guess we can get in more debt now....

ObsoleteE · #**125** 05-04-2011, 07:15 PM

As for him being the "head man". He may have been in the past, but by no means was he in charge anymore. He has been in hiding for years. The house had no land line, no computers, he probably never left the compound, and probably had no say in the day to day operations of Al Queda. He probably had trouble sleeping every night. Imagine being the most wanted man in the world, you would be shitting bricks through your square *******.

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Originally Posted by WildlandFirefighter

People would be more angrier

Grammar police! lol.

WildlandFirefighter · #**126** 05-04-2011, 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ObsoleteE

As for him being the "head man". He may have been in the past, but by no means was he in charge anymore. He has been in hiding for years. The house had no land line, no computers, he probably never left the compound, and probably had no say in the day to day operations of Al Queda. He probably had trouble sleeping every night. Imagine being the most wanted man in the world, you would be shitting bricks through your square *******.

You think that.

Do you know......anyone can hack into your phone lines, computer, etc and find where you are.

Do you think he was going to risk that?

Do you not know how to think like a whole country or whole world is after you for a reason and you want to stay on the down-low?

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Originally Posted by ObsoleteE

As for him being the "head man". He may have been in the past, but by no means was he in charge anymore. He has been in hiding for years. The house had no land line, no computers, he probably never left the compound, and probably had no say in the day to day operations of Al Queda. He probably had trouble sleeping every night. Imagine being the most wanted man in the world, you would be shitting bricks through your square *******.

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Grammar police! lol.

Citizens arrest, citizens arrest!

FireRanger · #**127** 05-04-2011, 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by WildlandFirefighter

1) I'm not making a political opinion. Screw this political crap.

Yes you are. That's what your entire ranting is all about. Politics.

Yes his posts were similar to gheto teenager text message. And yes we're going to be in debt up to our eyeballs. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how you approach people with political opinions that are different than yours and how you react to them.

There are two easy ways to destroy families and friendships.
1) Talk about politics
2) Talk about religion

Nobody minds will ever be changed no matter what you say or how you say it.

mdblitz · #**128** 05-04-2011, 07:17 PM

These people and their extreme, violent expressions against any disagreement with their faith has been going on for hundreds of years. It will not stop. This is spiritual and completely illogical. It is the responsibility of our government to defend our society and I pray that those making the decisions make the correct ones. Collecting papers and hard drives from the compound will help also.

FireRanger · #**129** 05-04-2011, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by WildlandFirefighter

Do you know......anyone can hack into your phone lines, computer, etc and find where you are.

No they can't.

ObsoleteE · #**130** 05-04-2011, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by WildlandFirefighter

You think that.

Do you know......anyone can hack into your phone lines, computer, etc and find where you are.

Do you think he was going to risk that?

Do you not know how to think like a whole country or whole world is after you for a reason and you want to stay on the down-low?

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Citizens arrest, citizens arrest!

I am aware that my phone lines, and computer, and cell can be hacked into. I don't think he was willing to risk that, hence why he didn't have land lines, or a computer. This is why he could in no way be in charge of Al Queda. He was basically in his own prison. I don't know how to think a whole country or the whole world was after me, because they will most likely never be after me. I am John Q Average. Staying on the DL automatically makes him not in charge. If he were in charge, he would have been caught much sooner.

FireRanger · #**131** 05-04-2011, 07:22 PM

It's not a matter of being in charge or being whatever position he may or may not have been. He's a figure head. He doesn't have to be in charge. He's a spiritual, symbolic, and critical cornerstone to their organization.

ObsoleteE · #**132** 05-04-2011, 07:24 PM

Also, you need to realize that Pakistan isn't like the US. You can't just look somebody up like you can here. Military had their work cut out. Osama had people bringing food and other goods to the compound. That means, every time a van showed up, the govt had to follow that van, and do their best to identify every person in that van. They had to interrogate a lot of people who weren't willing to talk. They had to line up certain subjects that these people said they didn't know anything about. Take these aligning subjects and investigate them. A ton of work went into this.

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It's not a matter of being in charge or being whatever position he may or may not have been. He's a figure head. He doesn't have to be in charge. He's a spiritual, symbolic, and critical cornerstone to their organization.

Agreed, and someone else is probably already on their way to trying to step up to this status.

WildlandFirefighter · #**133** 05-04-2011, 07:29 PM

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Yes you are. That's what your entire ranting is all about. Politics.

Yes his posts were similar to gheto teenager text message. And yes we're going to be in debt up to our eyeballs. But that's not what I'm talking about. I'm talking about how you approach people with political opinions that are different than yours and how you react to them.

There are two easy ways to destroy families and friendships.
1) Talk about politics
2) Talk about religion

Nobody minds will ever be changed no matter what you say or how you say it.

Well, I'm just tired of this crap.

This "War" has gained us nothing. This is only for the government to benefit from it while the citizens suffer.

If we stayed out of this "War" in the beginning...THE BEGINNING AS IN THE GULF WAR. Then we wouldn't been attacked as we would have on 9/11, even though 9/11 is a questionable event to some people to whether our government did it to make a reason to go back to the Middle East.

We invaded the Middle East to get into their business over there because of the oil wells we wanted in Kuwait. If from the beginning we had our own oil wells here in America, we wouldn't need them over there thus not having this from the Gulf War to today to happen!

I'm just tired of us working taxpayers working our asses off and most of the country is out of the job because either,
A) Our jobs get shipped overseas by the government
B) We got sorry ass people who don't want to work and the government still gives them the working taxpayers taxes that they work hard for

I'm also tired of seeing this country turning into a 3rd world country right before our eyes even though everyone is blind because they got their head up another countrys ass.

This country is being slowly taken over by the Drug Cartel. The Drug Cartel which messed up the country of Mexico and corrupted it's government officials and people. The Drug Cartel which will taken over and give our children drugs and SELL OUR DAUGHTERS FOR SEX SLAVERY just like what happen in Europe when the Communist ruled Eastern Europe!

I'm tired of it.

Forget the Middle East. I rather let every country worry about their own people and have a chance to rule them instead of the US/Britian trying to rule and take over their culture and country! Don't you think this is why Osama is mad? Because we go over there and try to force ourselves on to them.

Don't feed me the BS of him killing thousands of people when yet the US killed thousands of Native Americans. I guess we should have killed the Generals and Presidents responsible for that!

People die. Get over it. We can't stop people killing someone. Someone is killing someone right at this minute right now. Are you going to stop it? You can't. Just because you think you have the biggest military in the world that you think you can rule everyone's country...because you can't!

Look at the British. They thought they had these best army in the world until we beat them in the Revolution. Just a bunch of peasants, farmers with pitchforks...beating a bunch of armed British soldiers.

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No they can't.

Ha, the government sure can. Are you stuck in the 18th century?

SalRanger2 · #**134** 05-04-2011, 07:30 PM

he has to be dead, they should put out the pics i think, make everyone believe it.

WildlandFirefighter · #**135** 05-04-2011, 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SalRanger2

he has to be dead, they should put out the pics i think, make everyone believe it.

But what is one thing you even have to make something look real?

Photoshop.