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Old 05-07-2011, 01:44 AM
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No pic no proof... I want a picture of his body with the bullet next to him that went thru his head...Thanks!
Which bullet? They turned him into swiss cheese basicly. They said the face was all you could reconize.

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They don't hack into phones. And there is no court or judge involved with an NSL.

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Wrong my friend. I guess you forgot about those devices that certain people get to listen in on cell phone calls and steal people's numbers haven't you. What's to stop them from applying that technology to regular home phones or hard lines as they like to call them. Now do you get it?

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Didn't his own people say he is dead?
Yep. 5 people were shot total. According to my friend, one woman took a bullet in the leg before she surrendered. She was the one who said in almost perfect english that this was Bin Laden and pointed to his body. They confirmed it with photos, DNA and facial reconigtion. The friend I'm talking about is stationed at the pentagon. He wants to remain unknown. The one photo that all the networks showed was the photo taken at the time of the op. I'll never forget the shock on their faces of our president, and secretary of state Hilary Clinton with her hand over her mouth and the rest of the presidents staff. when they witnessed the attack in real time videos.
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Old 05-07-2011, 06:11 AM
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Wrong my friend. I guess you forgot about those devices that certain people get to listen in on cell phone calls and steal people's numbers haven't you. What's to stop them from applying that technology to regular home phones or hard lines as they like to call them. Now do you get it?
I've been getting it all along. You guys are the ones in a TV/Movie fantasy land about this. Everything you're talking about is a bunch of BS. There is no hacking into cell phones and there is no hacking into landlines. It is all done through the phone company. I know what I'm talking about on this. You don't. Sorry.
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Old 05-07-2011, 07:12 AM
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bin Laden the lowest of the low now sleeps with the fishes.
What is more appropriate than his remains provide nourishment to an even lower form of life
and reside as fish excrement on the bottom of the sea as yet the lowest form of matter......
The last thing he eyeballed was an American bullet (2).
God Bless America.
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Old 05-07-2011, 09:29 AM
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Wrong my friend. I guess you forgot about those devices that certain people get to listen in on cell phone calls and steal people's numbers haven't you. What's to stop them from applying that technology to regular home phones or hard lines as they like to call them. Now do you get it?
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I've been getting it all along. You guys are the ones in a TV/Movie fantasy land about this. Everything you're talking about is a bunch of BS. There is no hacking into cell phones and there is no hacking into landlines. It is all done through the phone company. I know what I'm talking about on this. You don't. Sorry.

Actually there are devices that people can use to listen in on cell phone calls like knightmare stated. One such homemade device was demonstrated at Defcon 18 last year.


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Devices that can sniff out and record cell phone conversations aren't new -- law enforcement and intelligence agencies have had them at their disposal for years. What is new is that white hat hacker Chris Paget managed to build his own for just $1,500.
http://smallbusiness.aol.com/2010/08...one-be-hacked/
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:06 PM
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I've been getting it all along. You guys are the ones in a TV/Movie fantasy land about this. Everything you're talking about is a bunch of BS. There is no hacking into cell phones and there is no hacking into landlines. It is all done through the phone company. I know what I'm talking about on this. You don't. Sorry.
Maybe you guys can clear this up for me. Is it true that suspicious rf/ landline text/voice strings are flagged? Otherwise Bin Smitten would not have had to use couriers. I understand that to monitor specific targets in the USA would be necessary for a judge to sign off on.
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Old 05-07-2011, 05:14 PM
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I would suggest that you read thru this as there is a lot to it . Basically the gov't can listen to your conversations per the agreements set forth in the patriot act itself . There is a lot to it but it opens up a lot of areas for the gov't to be able to chase down leads for suspected terrorists . The patriot act quite large and can cover a lot of area . I usually don't like the invasion of privacy , but for chasing bad guys , I can agree to it for now . If it saves my ass from some nut case with the intent on killing , maiming or destroying people , go for it . I have nothing to hide .... Not normally can anyone's name come up on this , but I'm sure it can happen and they can review your info if need be . I would really think that they would allow pro law enforcement and not your local police chief to review this stuff as well .
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Old 05-07-2011, 06:19 PM
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Thanks so much. I agree wholeheartedly that law enforcement and surveillance agencies need the tools to protect our society. What is so troubling for me to read about is the detail that is written into these statutes. Our government has got to be able to write guidelines to protect us that do not need to include every dotted "I" and crossed "T" detail of a subject. Seems to me that the finer the defined details the finer the ability to circumvent depending on the cost of a lawyer.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:13 AM
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How about this Haybo. Your grammer makes a Pre-K student look like they have a degree from Yale. Guess we need to worry about education too.


Why don't we go to Sudan and save that 3rd world country? Their warlords are killing their people and also traffiking drugs and weapons throughout the blackmarket.

Why don't we go stop them?



Because Sudan doesn't have oil fields. Sudan has only Aid infested and starved Africans. The US government won't make money off of that.

Like I said after WW2 the US, Britian, and the USSR eyed the Middle East to get the oil so they can get $$$ and trying to stop how the Muslims/Arabs rule their people.

They weren't bothering us til we bothered them and tried to take over their country.


Like I said I had a guy I went to school with who serves in the military and said they weren't doing crap over there and he is thinking about leaving because it's just all politics.


And you also need to stop bitching about gas prices then if you want to keep foreign oil. Go buy you a Prius and suck a tit.

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Ok, so yer telling me Obama was talking to couple of the SEAL guys and then we heard Osama had a gun and threw his wife in front of him. Now just recently, they said no wait, he didn't have a gun and it wasn't his wife. NOW, they said they thought he was reaching for a weapon and that it was his wife but she is ok BUT the son got shot.


OMFG.....it's like I'm talkin to my brother's kids or somethin.


What next?

Are they going to say Osama pulled a bomb out of his ass?
For starters... your a ******* if you're correcting my grammer on a damn forum, could it ever occur to you that i may have been at work, or had very limited time to make sure my grammer was correct, so your clearly a stuck up old ass who's got nothing better to do then hate on the U.S. and bash on other people. you are likly a high school drop out and do nothing to contribute to the world.... and i am a senior in high school right now and attending RWU, one of the top criminal justice schools next year, to gain my masters and get a career paying four times what you make. so next time you hate on someone make sure they are in a shitier spot than you.

And yes the u.s helps and is involved with the middle east for the greater part of two reasons, $$$$ and to get rid of their extremly corrupt gov. We stay clear of Africa becuase it is a lost place, 0 use to the u.s or anywhere in the world. and the stuff about you freaking out about the osama, gun, bomb, bs. Do you honestly believe that the u.s seals would be able to document and remember every signle aspect to the operation? you must be tripping on drugs to say the bs you state. And if the U.S. is such a crappy country, with such ill educated people and we are that bad, mayb you should move to South Africa or something, or better yet how about Sudan where you can do something to try and make your mark in the world and misserbly fail at trying.

i apologize to everyone else who reads this but people like the guy i quoted agrivate me soooooo much because they have no respect fooooor anyone, other people, other countries, and most def. the best country in the world, OURS!
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:25 AM
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Dear lord guys, come on. There is no sense in arguing or fighting over this. Everyone is entitled to an opinion on certain things and nothing can change that, not even arguing. Cant we just agree to disagree and get on with the ranger discussions and let this topic die? This is a Ranger forum, and a good one. There is no sense in giving it a black eye by fighting over politics we can not control.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:27 AM
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like i said man im sry,it jus me a nd this guy have been beefing and its getting my agrivated. i planed on being dome with this thread after that last post.
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:36 AM
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The man was a NON-Combatant , that means he was not covered under the Geneva Convention . That means there allowed to kill first ask later ! There using 50 cal sniper rifles in Afghan. Normally under the Convention your not allowed to . And it's all legal cause there dealing with Non-Combatants . Yep there using shotguns too!

Now let some one who has never been in the military give me or some other Vet an argument on that !
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Old 05-08-2011, 09:45 AM
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For starters... your a ******* if you're correcting my grammer on a damn forum, could it ever occur to you that i may have been at work, or had very limited time to make sure my grammer was correct, so your clearly a stuck up old ass who's got nothing better to do then hate on the U.S. and bash on other people. you are likly a high school drop out and do nothing to contribute to the world.... and i am a senior in high school right now and attending RWU, one of the top criminal justice schools next year, to gain my masters and get a career paying four times what you make. so next time you hate on someone make sure they are in a shitier spot than you.

And yes the u.s helps and is involved with the middle east for the greater part of two reasons, $$$$ and to get rid of their extremly corrupt gov. We stay clear of Africa becuase it is a lost place, 0 use to the u.s or anywhere in the world. and the stuff about you freaking out about the osama, gun, bomb, bs. Do you honestly believe that the u.s seals would be able to document and remember every signle aspect to the operation? you must be tripping on drugs to say the bs you state. And if the U.S. is such a crappy country, with such ill educated people and we are that bad, mayb you should move to South Africa or something, or better yet how about Sudan where you can do something to try and make your mark in the world and misserbly fail at trying.

i apologize to everyone else who reads this but people like the guy i quoted agrivate me soooooo much because they have no respect fooooor anyone, other people, other countries, and most def. the best country in the world, OURS!
Well good for you. I'm glad you are getting your education.

You judge me to quick.
You see my name? I do this (as a volunteer) and I work for a timber company as well. I graduated from High School and I am still attending college and I am about done. So there you go. I'm not here to argue or share my personal life.

Dude, read what you said. They are involved for $$$ and help get rid of the corrupted government there?

Ha, dude, Africa has a corrupted government so does Mexico. Why doesn't the US help them? Put two and two together.
What does these countries don't have like the Middle East?
OIL WELLS.


If you have OIL.You have the world at the grasp of your hands. With oil you can control a countries economy as you see what it is doing to us. High gas prices are making us not go where we use to and hurting businesses.

Why don't the US drill here?
You said we're saving it.

BS. We can drill and still have enough for a long time.
Look at the Middle East, it still spewing out oil still!

So the next time you bitch about gas prices, ask yourself, why don't we drill here and forget them? Maybe gas prices go down then?

It's just we want to control more land and take what they have and then eventually....we will leave once the people there have their revolution from us and independence BUT after we rape their resources.

They should know what they do, you have to be professional and know every detail. If not, you will screw up and it can cost your companys lives.

But people can also tell things how they want them to be heard just so to make them look like a good guy.

Haven't you ever met someone like that before? I know I have. That's what we called a two-face basterd, a liar.

I'm not hating the US. I'm just tired of people not looking back at our country while it falls apart yet they are to busy worrying about another country (yet the government really is only after more oil and land to control and lies and blames everyone else to cover theirselves up).

It's crazy that we can worry about another country instead of worrying about ours.

You just have heard, maybe, that since Osama is supposedly dead, that our unemployment has dropped even more.
Yet, if we wasn't involved in this from day one and we worried about our country. Then we would be on our feet.



Listen,

The Gulf War occured in (90-91)
-We invaded the Middle East (THE MUSLIM STRONGHOLD, THESE COUNTRIES WORK TOGETHER)...We invaded cause the Iraqis invaded Kuwait. Kuwait has oil wells. I bet if no oil wells were involved in Kuwait or the Middle East THEN it would be like how you said it is with Africa (no hope). Our invasion could have pissed Osama off since it's his people countries and people.

Osama,etc bombed in (93)

World Trade Center (2001)

"War" on Terrorism (01 and on)



Put yourself in their shoes.

You have people invading your country and you know what they will eventually do (control your people and their way of life and rape your resources). Would you be pissed?
Hell yeah you would.


But it's ashame that we won't help the Sudan people since "WE'RE SUPPOSE TO BE FIGHTING TERRORISM AND SAVING THE WHOLE WORLD"


Yet babies are getting raped right now, people are getting shot, etc in Sudan and rest of Africa.


And also, we have to stop being so arrogant. In the end, something will catch up to us and it will be the end for it all.

I have respect for other countries. Leave them be and let them rule their people as they want. Until someone invades our country for no reason then we shall be out of it all.
Osama had a reason for attacking (if the government didn't do cover-ups to make us to go to war), he had a reason like I stated in the above paragraphs. We invaded their (Muslims) country for one thing...oil. While we're at it, we might as well try to take this land too.

If I DIDN'T have respect, I would go take their country, rape it of its resources, take away how their people lived for centuries and force my government on them.


I'll let them have their choice of government.


AND Haybo, you say you will make more money than me. Good for you. I don't care. You can still be rich and still not be satisfied. I don't care about being rich or having more money than someone else. That doesn't make you a man.
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Old 05-08-2011, 12:10 PM
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let me jus say, i truly dont care about how much money i make, im glad cus ill be helping the nation that does what it has to to give its people the greatest chance at living the good life. and i really enjoy the life i have and have had. and i kno what it takes to giv me a good life( and i dont mean rich life) because i respect the constitution and the values this country was founded on and those that defend it. i love the fact that i have an amazin gf and a great family and that i can hunt and fish and play sports all i want, ALL because of what this country has done for its people. i am done with this bs and you have no respect for our gov. wheather it be sodiers or politicians.
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Old 05-08-2011, 04:33 PM
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let me jus say, i truly dont care about how much money i make, im glad cus ill be helping the nation that does what it has to to give its people the greatest chance at living the good life. and i really enjoy the life i have and have had. and i kno what it takes to giv me a good life( and i dont mean rich life) because i respect the constitution and the values this country was founded on and those that defend it. i love the fact that i have an amazin gf and a great family and that i can hunt and fish and play sports all i want, ALL because of what this country has done for its people. i am done with this bs and you have no respect for our gov. wheather it be sodiers or politicians.
Haybo, in my opinion, you haven't fully seen the real world yet. Once you have and study more and look deeper inside of how our country is turning to be...then you will maybe, just maybe, understand.

I don't give a damn about politics. I only give a damn that my family ain't strugglin' and that we're ok.

I've talk to several old people and they are disgusted with how this country is turning out to be. I'm talking about old as in your grandparents age. What they built for us to have, we destroy it. Our government always destorys it.

Our politicians are always at each others throat saying their better than each other YET they won't show it. They only show us that they love getting us into more debt and then WE (THE TAXPAYERS) have to pay for it.

I don't know about you but how can I be glad for this country with how our government helps sorry ass people yet won't help a respectful old folk who is barely hanging on? You only see what is on TV. You don't dig deeper down in the hole and watch and learn more.

We're always getting into other countries businesses and "helping" them out yet our government won't help the hardworking man but rapes his wallet.

All I see is tax increase. It's like what we fought for during the Revolution was basically nothing.

The only way this country will get on its feet is to get our government straight. Get out of other people's country and look for our ownselves. Create more jobs HERE and not ship them across seas. Drill oil here so we don't have to depend on foreign oil with hopefully seeing low gas prices which will be a relief. Cut these programs that people are riding and screwing the working man and have strict watchful eyes on them to who we help out (help only those who need to be help as in retirees, old folks, veterans, people who can't do things their ownself as in cleaning theirselves).

You probably haven't seen it yet but I know I have and many on this forum may have but I see so many people using foodstamps that don't need to be using them. Also most get checks to that don't need them.



If we only stop going to war and invading and worry about this country you say you love, then it's only getting worse here and you don't even know it yet until it bites you in the ass.

Your hunting will only lead you hunting for your food everyday (not going to a grocery store like you do) and not having your XBOX 360/PS3/Computer in your face like you have, or having toilet paper to wipe your ass with. You defending for your family here on your own countries soil because you didn't look ahead of how our government is turning this country into.


This is why I say forget about other countries and worry about us before it's to late. If we leave them alone, they will leave us alone.


Until someone comes banging on our door and wanting a war, we will sit and build up our economy.

Don't say Osama made this war. He had a reason to attack and they even stated the reason. They want us away from their country and leave them the hell alone. Why can't we?

OUR GOVERNMENT IS TO DAMN GREEDY AND GOING CORRUPTED.

Haybo, I wish the best for you. But I also wish you open your eyes to what's best for you and the rest of our country. This "war" isn't....it's only benefiting our government who in the end screws us just for them to control more people and gain more resources so they can make more $$$ for their wallets.
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OUR GOVERNMENT IS TO DAMN GREEDY AND GOING CORRUPTED.
Yes...It is.
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