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Old 05-04-2011, 07:43 PM
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:47 PM
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Doesn't matter. What they say goes. If they are suspicious of you like I said, they ain't just going to say, "Hey, we're suspicious of you because we think your into something...so we're going to tap your phone line."


Unless your a *******.
I didn't say they were going to tell you about it. In fact the court orders would strictly prohibit the phone company from revealing law enforcement actions to anyone. But no matter what you want to believe to further your political opinions, the government can't just hack into your phone lines. That is fiction on TV.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:52 PM
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I didn't say they were going to tell you about it. In fact the court orders would strictly prohibit the phone company from revealing law enforcement actions to anyone. But no matter what you want to believe to further your political opinions, the government can't just hack into your phone lines. That is fiction on TV.
I don't care if it is on TV, I wasn't thinking about TV when I said it.

Dude, if your the government. You found out that one of your citizens could cause your nation damage and you want to track him and listen to who he talks to...would you just go up and ask if you could tap his line or worry about some phone company? You could say it was urgent for national security....how would the phone company know. They will have to obey since it's the government.
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Old 05-04-2011, 07:56 PM
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You're not listening.

If any law enforcement or national security agency wants to tap someone's phone line, they have to provide probable cause to whoever signs the order. The phone company is served orders to provide the wire tap or the call information. There is no hacking of anything. Yes they have to ask the phone company for it and yes the phone company is obligated to give it to them. You can continue to believe whatever sinister plan you want but its still not reality.
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Old 05-05-2011, 10:09 PM
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Ok, first thing is this. If the U.S. government suspected anyone to be a terrorist, under the "patriot act" they can basicly strip you of your citizenship and ship you off to GITMO at the drop of a hat. 2nd thing is the reason they won't show bin laden's death pics is because they're too graphic for alot of people to see. 3rd thing is that he has to be dead because how can you get every news network,website and other orginazations to tell the same lie? you can't it's impossible. Plus 9/11 WASN'T the first time he attacked america either. The 1993 bombing of the World Trade Center's parking garage, the attack on the U.S.S Cole which they found evidence in a rolodex located in the compound, The U.S. Embassy in Iraq. These attacks combined with the 9/11 attacks is why we went to war with Afganistan. Pakistan has not cooperated with us since day one, and truth be told, I think they were supporting and hiding him. Plus they also found evidence that he funded attacks on Russia and some other upcoming attacks. He communicated with what we call a "throw away" cell phone to his orginazation. D, I don't know why you have to start an argument and down someone for what they say or believe, but my advice to you is to stop doing what you're doing. If you keep doing what you're doing you'll end up getting in deep trouble with this website. And none of us want to see that. George W. Bush used 9/11 as an excuse to go to war with Iraq.
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Old 05-06-2011, 05:35 AM
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Knightmare is absolutely correct . Read up on the Patriot act as thats where the line is drawn thru the ACLU . A lot of folks don't like it as an invasion of privacy . I , always never had anything to hide so I personally don't mind it . As for Pakistan , its a nuclear state under the direction of a lot of questionable leaders trying to hold it together . thats why we send billions of aid to make sure the government does not collapse , thus the NUclear weapons can fall into anyones hands , India will blow them off the map as they are arch enemies , and terrorists will live in peace , etc . VERY tough place to be as they are watched by everyone including Russia and China . They also annohjunced last nite that they want half of the American forces in the country out . So our relationship with them is not good right now as well . Not that I care about that , but there is a lot more at stake here than just Bin Laden . I am glad we did not ask permission as it was the correct thing to do , and I think Pakistan said what they did to save face .

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Old 05-06-2011, 07:09 AM
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You're not listening.

If any law enforcement or national security agency wants to tap someone's phone line, they have to provide probable cause to whoever signs the order. The phone company is served orders to provide the wire tap or the call information. There is no hacking of anything. Yes they have to ask the phone company for it and yes the phone company is obligated to give it to them. You can continue to believe whatever sinister plan you want but its still not reality.
You must not be familiar with the Patriot Act.
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lol this is gonna get good...

where's the damn popcorn smiley?!? ...Tom?!
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Old 05-06-2011, 07:49 AM
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Old 05-06-2011, 09:59 AM
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You must not be familiar with the Patriot Act.
I am. You're clearly not though if you read what I said and still think that. It allows for wiretaps without a court order using an NSL, which I have said several times now. NSL's have oversight and controls too. And they still go through the phone company. There is still no such thing as hacking your phone line or cell phone.


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Old 05-06-2011, 01:53 PM
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I am. You're clearly not though if you read what I said and still think that. It allows for wiretaps without a court order using an NSL, which I have said several times now. NSL's have oversight and controls too. And they still go through the phone company. There is still no such thing as hacking your phone line or cell phone.


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They do hold court precedings for that. The precedings are secret to the general public. It's no different than a grand jury. This act is called FISA, The Foreign Inteligence Surveilance Act. Nato came up with it, and you combine that with the patriot act, look out it's fireworks. Pakistan is a powder keg and killing Bin Laden has produced a fuse. Watch what happens next week when NATO puts economic sanctions on Pakistan for supporting terrorism. Right now we're setting on a powder keg with a lit cigar. Yes they do hack into computers, phone records, bank statements they'll use every availible resource to track a terrorist, but they won't do it until a FISA court says they can.
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Old 05-06-2011, 02:10 PM
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looks like he found it..
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No pic no proof... I want a picture of his body with the bullet next to him that went thru his head...Thanks!
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Old 05-06-2011, 03:28 PM
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They don't hack into phones. And there is no court or judge involved with an NSL.

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Old 05-06-2011, 05:36 PM
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Didn't his own people say he is dead?
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