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Old 04-10-2011, 09:34 PM
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I say...LETS GO FISHIN'.
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:40 PM
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You are absolutely right, and I know a lot of people only know what the media tells them about; which is very unfortunate. Some times I think people forget how awesome this country is, even if you don't agree with the current politics; because as you said, there are other places out there where you can't speak freely or vote.

I'd rather not divulge into specifics and whatnot to keep any animosity from coming up, but I just think a pure Constitutionalist view cannot properly fit an ever-changing, modern society. However, I will agree that the Constitution should always be the first thing considered in new policies and laws, as it is what makes America, America.
Yeah, I really only listen to people like Fox News (yes I like Glenn Beck, and Sean Hannity), and other radio guys like Mark Levin. I think the MSNBC are a bunch of Obama idolizers, and always on his jock, because they think he is God's gift to America, when NOTHING he has done is good for the country. But, exercising your right to vote is essential, and not only is it your RIGHT to vote. It is your responsibility. My father served in the US Air Force for 21 years. My grandmom was a WW2 Coast Guard vet, as was my maternal Grandfather, who was in the Navy during WW2, along with MANY of my ancestors. Many of them fought, and died, so that we can be on a message board today, speaking out about our rights, and disagreeing with our leaders. I love this country, with all of my heart, and one of the greatest disappointments in my life, was not being able to get into the Military, (medical condition, that really means nothing).

Thank you for your input on the Constitution, I guess we can agree to disagree. :-). I firmly believe that there are 3 documents on this planet that are TRULY inspired by God. The Bible, The Declaration of Independence, and the Constitution. Many people will disagree that we are a Christian nation. If you look at ANY of the founders writings, you will see that we ARE in fact a nation developed on Christian ideals. And the only reason, why the Virginia "Seperation of Church and State" exists, is because they didn't not want Catholicism coming down from Canada, and spreading into the population, because that was EXACTLY what they were trying to escape in England and Holland, and others.

Having said all of that, I carry a pocket size copy of the Declaration of Independence and Constitution with me everywhere I go. It is essential that we KNOW, REMEMBER, and EDUCATE ourselves on our rights, on what they mean, and what is allowed and not allowed. The liberals, the progressive liberals especially, would love to burn the Constitution, and take away our rights. And when they start taking away small things, it is easier for them to take big things away too. I (as you can see from my signature) am a gun owner. I believe that the second amendment is the most IMPORTANT amendment for 2 reasons. 1. Because it is the ONLY amendment, with some "force" behind it. And also, because it is in place, to make sure that the government doesn't forget that the others exist. The second we let them register our guns (the first step to confiscation), or let them take our guns away, we are to become "subjects". Thomas Jefferson said, "Those who let their guns be hammered into plowshares, will plow for those who do not."

Sorry about the long diatribe. :-) I am just a HUGE proponent and lover of that document. I can't get enough of it, if you have never read it. I highly recommend you do.......
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:47 PM
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I am actually NOT a fan of the mudslinging. I HATE it when politicians mudsling. Don't tell me what the OTHER guy did in his past, tell me what YOU are going to do for us NOW. Yes, it is important to be INFORMED, but it is VERY important to tell the people who are voting for you, exactly what your plans are for the nation...
I'm not a fan of it either, but sometimes it can be funny. When it gets down right dirty and personal is when I stop listening if ya know what I mean. One of the best lines I heard was and I quote: "what in the hell have you been smoking Simon?" I rolled in the floor when I heard that from Bill Oreilly.
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:49 PM
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I'm not a fan of it either, but sometimes it can be funny. When it gets down right dirty and personal is when I stop listening if ya know what I mean. One of the best lines I heard was and I quote: "what in the hell have you been smoking Simon?" I rolled in the floor when I heard that from Bill Oreilly.
Yeah, there is a difference between INFORMING and MUDSLINGING. I appreciate candidates, that do the former, and not the latter. But I will usually not vote for someone who mudslings. (If it is THEM doing the mudslinging, and not someone who did it to "represent" them. If you know what I am saying
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:56 PM
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I want to see if this deal about obamas birth cert. comes into play. He sure has spent alot of money to keep it concealed. Some 2 milliion I heard. Could you imagine, not a US native, what a scam, the biggest scam of all scams!!!
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:58 PM
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I want to see if this deal about obamas birth cert. comes into play. He sure has spent alot of money to keep it concealed. Some 2 milliion I heard. Could you imagine, not a US native, what a scam, the biggest scam of all scams!!!
It is kind of mysterious, I agree. If it is found out that he is NOT a citizen, it would mean a lot of trouble that is for sure.
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Old 04-10-2011, 09:59 PM
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Good post Radness. I must disagree on the Fox news part though, I don't see them as a credible source at all, not that I see any major media source as truly that credible, but Fox news is the lowest imo. Where we differ probably stems from our religious viewpoints, as you are a believer in the Bible and I am an Athiest.

It seems mudslinging is all the major networks do nowadays, Fox news, CNN, MSNBC are all guilty of it. Al Jazeera is probably the most balanced and credible source imo, BBC is also pretty good. Some times I think it is best to get news from a less bias, foreign media source as any politics going on in the US will less likely affect their everyday life, and therefore they will report with more facts.

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I want to see if this deal about obamas birth cert. comes into play. He sure has spent alot of money to keep it concealed. Some 2 milliion I heard. Could you imagine, not a US native, what a scam, the biggest scam of all scams!!!
I imagine there is extensive background research done on ALL presidential candidates even before they are elected into the primaries.
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:02 PM
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Good post Radness. I must disagree on the Fox news part though, I don't see them as a credible source at all, not that I see any major media source as truly that credible, but Fox news is the lowest imo. Where we differ probably stems from our religious viewpoints, as you are a believer in the Bible and I am an Athiest.

It seems mudslinging is all the major networks do nowadays, Fox news, CNN, MSNBC are all guilty of it. Al Jazeera is probably the most balanced and credible source imo, BBC is also pretty good. Some times I think it is best to get news from a less bias, foreign media source as any politics going on in the US will less likely affect their everyday life, and therefore they will report with more facts.

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I imagine there is extensive background research done on ALL presidential candidates even before they are elected into the primaries.
Well Matt..I appreciate you not being one of those crazy militant Athiests. lol Some Athiests are REALLY bad about it. I appreciate and respect someone who can hear and listen impartially to MY point of view, and disagree respectfully. Even some from MY side, can resort to bully tactics. When as Christians, we are taught to speak the truth....in love.

So, all that to say. "Thank you for respecting my side, while presenting your side in a very adult manner." If only ALL of our politicians could do the same, eh?
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:09 PM
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Unfortunately it seems every and any group out there has extremist type people that give the rest a bad name. If our politicians could get along, whilst differing so greatly, it'd be a true showing that everybody can get along; in a civil manner at least lol.
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:10 PM
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I imagine there is extensive background research done on ALL presidential candidates even before they are elected into the primaries.
Well, if there are certain people in power that are pulling strings, anything can happen, or not happen. It seems odd he can't mention a hospital that he was born at. That none of the hospitals in Hawaii have any sort of records. That there are no year books, public records, people that say "yea, I went to school with him" or how about even teachers...? Its almost like its fabricated into exsistance. I bet eventually he will show something, but the delay is to fabricated a forgery that looks original. Instil records were there once was none. It will take a long time and cost lots of coin, but that is what is happening. (Thats my conspiracy theroy)
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Old 04-10-2011, 10:33 PM
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Yeah, there is a difference between INFORMING and MUDSLINGING. I appreciate candidates, that do the former, and not the latter. But I will usually not vote for someone who mudslings. (If it is THEM doing the mudslinging, and not someone who did it to "represent" them. If you know what I am saying
Oh yeah I know what you're saying. You'd vote for them if their staff is mud slinging but not if the canidate was doing it themselves. Yeah I get it.

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Good post Radness. I must disagree on the Fox news part though, I don't see them as a credible source at all, not that I see any major media source as truly that credible, but Fox news is the lowest imo. Where we differ probably stems from our religious viewpoints, as you are a believer in the Bible and I am an Athiest.

It seems mudslinging is all the major networks do nowadays, Fox news, CNN, MSNBC are all guilty of it. Al Jazeera is probably the most balanced and credible source imo, BBC is also pretty good. Some times I think it is best to get news from a less bias, foreign media source as any politics going on in the US will less likely affect their everyday life, and therefore they will report with more facts.

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I only like 2 shows on that network. The Oreilly Factor and Glenn Beck. other than that they're really not much of a source, unless you can read between the lines if ya know what I mean.
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Old 04-11-2011, 04:22 PM
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yeah pretty much. After 9/11, we heard very little about afganistan even though before the 2nd plane hit the buildings, a few buddies and a cousin of mine were deployed to afganistan. Around about this time 9 years ago all we heard about was Iraq. Now all we hear about is a potential government shutdown, screwed up health care, and how much traveling the sorry bastard has done. He's travelled more than any president we've ever had in history and that says something and guess who footed the bill? THE AMERICAN TAXPAYERS. We need to get his and the senates asses out of there.

Obviously you let Fox News do your thinking for you....shame. Reagan, GWB and Clinton did the most traveling.
Even though I dislike Obama and his open border bullshit, how did he screw up healthcare when the legislation doesn't even take effect for a couple of years?????????? You youngsters amuse me being opinionated about things you know nothing about. LMAO!
Conservatives watch Fox and Liberals watch MSNBC and believe every word.....sad state of affairs.
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