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Old 04-07-2011, 08:28 PM
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WHAT we really have to worry about is the sorry asses who don't want to work and eliminate illegal workers and shoot every border guard who is taking bribe from the Cartel and then get the Cartel and do force labor with them, burn them alive, do scientific experiments on them while their alive, and let them starve..oh yeah...and stick them on stakes while their alive...just like ole Vlad the Impaler did....yeah...that would be bad ass.

America is just too soft.....to many panzys.


Oh, and cut back on the population. That's the problem to...to many people and then to many people who don't want to work and then to many jobs being shipped overseas...
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:31 PM
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Well that's easy. I never said that. Done.


I don't think that cuts it. So basically, you can't back it up at all and have no evidence whatsoever that I take my paycheck or anything else for granted. Your evidence is that I complain about my paycheck being essentially stolen from me by some politicians. Yea, only a jerk would be annoyed by that.


I don't know. I haven't gotten into what either of us get paid and it's irrelevant really. I get a paycheck. Most of it goes to the cost of living. Your mom gets a paycheck. Most of it goes to the cost of living. Yet somehow I'm deserving of getting fucked.


You know what, I do take that all back completely. The comment was aimed at the retards who don't work at all, don't care to work at all. And leach off the rest of society. That's not you or your mother and I said it because I'm clearly pissed off and shouldn't have pointed it at you.


No I don't. Not at all. I worked in the private sector for 10 years before working for the government. I do not see anyone that works and tries as less or below me. Yes your mother tries and works hard. Super. But you saying that her financial mistakes make the rest of us getting fucked over somehow fair is totally wrong.

What I am seeing is you acting like I think I and my coworkers are above everyone else and therefore deserve to get fucked over like I'm about to be. Not only are we not above or below people who work hard to try to make a living, but we work just as hard as everyone else who works hard, if not harder. Us getting fucked is no different than some hard working private sector guy getting fucked.

The point isn't that we're government workers. The point is we're hard workers and we're getting fucked for it. And the only people not getting fucked are the fuckers that fucked it up to begin with. Fuck.


Yeah dude a lot of my statements were just aimed at people im pissed at too. Mainly the people giving themselves bonuses from company cuts and all that other shit.

We're both just mad cause times are hard right now and honestly i will admit i am jealous of you guys. You do get paid good and get good benefits.

No one deserves to just not be paid i guess ive just dealt with the mom saying welp work only gave me 12 hours this week the bills are do and my 20 applications got me no calls back for so long that when it just freshly happens to someone else and ive learned to accept it its like....welcome to the club you know?

I hope to better myself, and put myself in better positions than my parents did, and give a little to my country to get a little back in return. It may not be the best and we have our problems but honestly we are a damn good country with a lot of opportunity.

Sorry i lost my temper and i do feel bad you gotta take a cut for the ******* politicians who really are rich as shit.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:33 PM
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:35 PM
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I should've brought some popcorn in here for goodness sake. What I'm saying is that everyone is paying the price wether we deserve it or not. In the past 2 decades we've seen 4 good, decent years (1996 to 2000). It started going down hill shortly after the 9/11 attacks. Then the financial crisis came into play when the housing market took a dump and fuel started rising through the roof. And this president sucks. He has done NOTHING except screw up what little health care we had and he's traveled more than any president we've had in history which says alot. The point is that bad decision making in washington d.c. and other people's bad decision making is the cause of hardship and also affects others. IT LOOKS LIKE NAZI GERMANY ALL OVER AGAIN DOESN'T IT.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:36 PM
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Honestly, If OBAMA runs again. We might as well shoot ourselves. Cause were fucked.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:37 PM
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Honestly, If OBAMA runs again. We might as well shoot ourselves. Cause were fucked.
It's not just Obama...

The President really isn't the main head honcho. Congress,etc is too.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:38 PM
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. What I'm saying is that everyone is paying the price wether we deserve it or not.
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Yeah dude a lot of my statements were just aimed at people im pissed at too. Mainly the people giving themselves bonuses from company cuts and all that other shit.

We're both just mad cause times are hard right now and honestly i will admit i am jealous of you guys. You do get paid good and get good benefits.

No one deserves to just not be paid i guess ive just dealt with the mom saying welp work only gave me 12 hours this week the bills are do and my 20 applications got me no calls back for so long that when it just freshly happens to someone else and ive learned to accept it its like....welcome to the club you know?

I hope to better myself, and put myself in better positions than my parents did, and give a little to my country to get a little back in return. It may not be the best and we have our problems but honestly we are a damn good country with a lot of opportunity.

Sorry i lost my temper and i do feel bad you gotta take a cut for the ******* politicians who really are rich as shit.
Ya me too. We've basically been yelling at each other over the same thing so obviously going nowhere. So now that we're done bombing each other back to stone age...
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:51 PM
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the 2 best president's I've seen have been Clinton's second term, and FDR. They did more for this country than anybody has. Clinton's first term sucked, but his second term was great. FDR ended the depression and got us back to work. He also created programs like UNEMPLOYMENT, and SOCIAL SECURITY. We tried to stay out of WWII, but was brought into it when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on us on DEC. 11, 1941. We was the only country Hitler declared war on. I've got enough WWII documenteries to watch for days and still not be done.
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Old 04-07-2011, 08:59 PM
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the 2 best president's I've seen have been Clinton's second term, and FDR. They did more for this country than anybody has. Clinton's first term sucked, but his second term was great. FDR ended the depression and got us back to work. He also created programs like UNEMPLOYMENT, and SOCIAL SECURITY. We tried to stay out of WWII, but was brought into it when Japan bombed Pearl Harbor and Germany declared war on us on DEC. 11, 1941. We was the only country Hitler declared war on. I've got enough WWII documenteries to watch for days and still not be done.
The Pacific was somewhat about oil supply too. Japan had some of it's oil taken from them, from what I remember....thus strangling their country.

Hitler didn't want war with the Allied powers. Even his General was interviewed after the War and said Hitler saw the Britians like the Germans...classy,etc. It's on Youtube.

Hitler went to Poland because some Poles were killing Germans there.
Remember WWI? Most of Poland was Germany before WWI. After WWI Germany lost its land, basically taken, and left some Germans there.

Britian declared war on Germany when Germany wanted to go get Poland since Germans were being killed...

The date of September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, is remembered as the date the war started. But little is remembered about the date Russia also moved into Poland, on September 16,1939. The nation of Poland was now divided between these two war-time allies.

It is interesting to notice what the responses of the major allied nations were to these two dates. When Germany entered the western portion of Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany. But when Russia moved into eastern Poland, there was no war declaration by either nation.

The Soviets caused one of the tragic events of history after they occupied their portion of Poland. They captured approximately 10,000 Polish officers and brutally murdered them, most of them meeting their death in Katyn Forest near the Russian town of Smolensk. The traditional story about their deaths was that the officers had been killed by the German army, but now the evidence is clear that the Russians committed this crime. The other victims were taken aboard a barge which was towed out to sea and then sunk.-
I believe Stalin would have moved more into Europe and attacked Hitler and everyone else. You can't trust the Communist. Stalin killed 60mil+. Look after WW2 with the Cold War.


I don't believe everything in a US History book, just like how they say the Civil War was all about Slavery which it wasn't. But who would know or care? Most of the time the kids don't care and will believe it and be fed lies.
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:13 PM
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The Pacific was somewhat about oil supply too. Japan had some of it's oil taken from them, from what I remember....thus strangling their country.

Hitler didn't want war with the Allied powers. Even his General was interviewed after the War and said Hitler saw the Britians like the Germans...classy,etc. It's on Youtube.

Hitler went to Poland because some Poles were killing Germans there.
Remember WWI? Most of Poland was Germany before WWI. After WWI Germany lost its land, basically taken, and left some Germans there.

Britian declared war on Germany when Germany wanted to go get Poland since Germans were being killed...

The date of September 1, 1939, when Germany invaded Poland, is remembered as the date the war started. But little is remembered about the date Russia also moved into Poland, on September 16,1939. The nation of Poland was now divided between these two war-time allies.

It is interesting to notice what the responses of the major allied nations were to these two dates. When Germany entered the western portion of Poland, Britain and France declared war on Germany. But when Russia moved into eastern Poland, there was no war declaration by either nation.

The Soviets caused one of the tragic events of history after they occupied their portion of Poland. They captured approximately 10,000 Polish officers and brutally murdered them, most of them meeting their death in Katyn Forest near the Russian town of Smolensk. The traditional story about their deaths was that the officers had been killed by the German army, but now the evidence is clear that the Russians committed this crime. The other victims were taken aboard a barge which was towed out to sea and then sunk.



I believe Stalin would have moved more into Europe and attacked Hitler and everyone else. You can't trust the Communist. Stalin killed 60mil+. Look after WW2 with the Cold War.


I don't believe everything in a US History book, just like how they say the Civil War was all about Slavery which it wasn't. But who would know or care? Most of the time the kids don't care and will believe it and be fed lies.
Those weren't from history books. Hitler was duped by Japan. Why do you think aid to them was cut off from germany by Hitler? It wasn't about just oil either. That's what really started it, an OIL EMBARGO cutting Japan off. They wanted to be self effecient in raw materials. They didn't want to surrender. Hiro Itto had to be snuck into a radio studio to even communicate. The war lords wanted to fight on to the last man. Plus we fired the first shot against Japan just 30 minutes before they bombed Pearl Harbor. The U.S.S. Ward gun torrete #3 sank a midget sub trying to enter Pearl Harbor. Trust me, I don't like the u.s. history books either. These dates and facts I gave you came from my WWII documentary collection. I don't trust a communist either.
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Old 04-07-2011, 09:16 PM
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Those weren't from history books. Hitler was duped by Japan. Why do you think aid to them was cut off from germany by Hitler? It wasn't about just oil either. That's what really started it, an OIL EMBARGO cutting Japan off. They wanted to be self effecient in raw materials. They didn't want to surrender. Hiro Itto had to be snuck into a radio studio to even communicate. The war lords wanted to fight on to the last man. Plus we fired the first shot against Japan just 30 minutes before they bombed Pearl Harbor. The U.S.S. Ward gun torrete #3 sank a midget sub trying to enter Pearl Harbor. Trust me, I don't like the u.s. history books either. These dates and facts I gave you came from my WWII documentary collection.
What most people also don't know is the Nazi military was full of people from different races and even JEWS. Some of Hitler's generals were Jewish.
THERE WAS EVEN SOME AMERICAN VOLUNTEERS IN THE SS.

Also there was an Indian legion that joined into the Nazi military to gain back their country (India) from British rule (which the British ruled before WW2).

There is alot people don't know.

I never knew other races or evne Jews were in the Wehrmacht, SS. You learned in school that it was just Germans.
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What most people also don't know is the Nazi military was full of people from different races and even JEWS. Some of Hitler's generals were Jewish.
THERE WAS EVEN SOME AMERICAN VOLUNTEERS IN THE SS.

Also there was an Indian legion that joined into the Nazi military to gain back their country (India) from British rule (which the British ruled before WW2).

There is alot people don't know.

I never knew other races or evne Jews were in the Wehrmacht, SS. You learned in school that it was just Germans.
Nope, I didn't learn this in school. And yes I knew about that. The Leader of the American Nazis was Fritz Coon. He held a rally at Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken before WWII even began. Give me a few minutes and I'll shoot a photo of what I have here in Documentaries. I have to wait for the camera to charge and put all of the stuff I have together so it can be photographed. Oh, fritz Coon died in 1951 and he did meet hitler, but was condemmed by the Nazis shortly after. yes there were Jews, India, south america, italy, north americans from just about every race people supported hitler at first. Hitler's reign began long before WWII. 13 years in power. What I'd like to know, is what his generals didn't tell him about and how much did he really know. And what people don't know is that Hitler was Volkswagon's creator too. He would've been a great leader if he didn't go crazy. He put his people above the government when he first came into power, but he went crazy and we all know the results of that.
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If you want a GREAT book on US History go buy A Patriot's History of the United States. It is INCREDIBLE. I learned things in there, that they never taught us in school

So, here are a few of my views.

I do not identify with any political party, other than I would never vote on a democrat ticket, because I believe liberals are whacked out of their freaking minds, all the want to do is tax tax tax, and regulate regulate regulate. Even some Republicans (Neo-Cons a.k.a the FAKE conservatives). I am a CONSERVATIVE and a CONSTITUTIONALIST. I believe that many politicians pervert the Constitution, and believe that it is a living document, which is meant to be manipulated and changed, like it is play-do. Its not. I personally do not want to see Trump run, because you can't run a country like you run a business. A great business man he is, but a politician? No. He would take votes away from worthwhile, and more experienced candidates.

Obama, and our current administration is destroying this country. His doctrine is CLEARLY, "Undermine our allies, embolden the enemy, and diminish the United States of America." He is supporting many of these Islamist militants. He is supporting the rebels in Libya, many of who have times to Al-Queada, and many of whom have ties to former detainees, or are former detainees themselves at Gitmo. He is taking us down a dangerous path there.

ALSO, our financial situation. I do blame EVERYONE in the government for this, for allowing this to go on. It isn't JUST Obama (although many of his program/ideas have and ARE failing, i.e. the Stimulus, Cash for Clunkers, Obamacare, etc.) But my main complaint, is that whenever things don't go the way the Liberals want it to go, they either run from the state (Wisconsin democrats fleeing to Illinois to avoid the Union bill), or they threaten a Gov't shutdown. Its the old "take their ball and go home" thing that little kids do. Now, this isn't EVERY liberal, but it is MOST of them. (Notice I said LIBERAL not Democrats..and the only time I said Democrats is referring to the bill in Wisconsin.)

My solution, is to vote Obama out of office in 2012, get BOTH Houses back to CONSERVATIVE control, repeal Obamacare, CUT spending, CUT taxes (or abolish taxes altogether, and get with the Fair Tax)
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Nope, I didn't learn this in school. And yes I knew about that. The Leader of the American Nazis was Fritz Coon. He held a rally at Madison Square Garden if I'm not mistaken before WWII even began. Give me a few minutes and I'll shoot a photo of what I have here in Documentaries. I have to wait for the camera to charge and put all of the stuff I have together so it can be photographed. Oh, fritz Coon died in 1951 and he did meet hitler, but was condemmed by the Nazis shortly after. yes there were Jews, India, south america, italy, north americans from just about every race people supported hitler at first. Hitler's reign began long before WWII. 13 years in power. What I'd like to know, is what his generals didn't tell him about and how much did he really know. And what people don't know is that Hitler was Volkswagon's creator too. He would've been a great leader if he didn't go crazy. He put his people above the government when he first came into power, but he went crazy and we all know the results of that.
Yeah, I knew about Fritz.

I'm not just talking about supporting. They fought in the Wehrmacht, SS, Luftwaffe, Kreigsmarine.

Also insert Africans, Muslims too.

You have to hand it to Hitler. He was a smart guy in my opinion, yes he had flaws but who doesn't.

He and his fellow folllowers gave Europe the 40 hr work week. He raised Germany out of the Depression like that (Germany had it the worse in my opinion since they had to pay back war debts and then had the Allies bash on them) and gave people jobs and made Germany become the most technological country ever in the 20th century which gave what the military has today.

First Assault Rifle, First nightvision, First Jet,etc.


I'd like to see a President do that today....they can't..why? Because they are corrupted.

People will bash Hitler alot.

He respected Women too.

He and his followers also supported Agriculture and Forestry,etc instead of destroying it like Stalin did.

Like Hitler said, The victors can rewrite history as they want it to be heard.


Hitler just lost it cause everyone turned their back on him.

Yes, he should have listen to his Generals some but then the Allies shouldn't declared war either.
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