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Old 03-27-2011, 08:03 AM
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come on now, that's just arrogant and makes you look like a bigger prick than the guy sitting down during the anthem.
fuck that, i fight for my country and it makes me sick to watch those punks pull shit like that. yea i kno its there right and all, but its also call respect. wish more people had some!!!
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Old 03-27-2011, 08:42 AM
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come on now, that's just arrogant and makes you look like a bigger prick than the guy sitting down during the anthem.

I don't always stand for it if I don't feel like it. I have recited 102503250 times, 1 more time isn't going to mean anything but when I do recite it, I leave out the under god part.
Must really drive you nuts when you have money then huh?

What about songs that mention God in them?
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Old 03-28-2011, 04:50 AM
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fuck that, i fight for my country and it makes me sick to watch those punks pull shit like that. yea i kno its there right and all, but its also call respect. wish more people had some!!!
It may piss you off, but you should be proud that people are using those rights that you fight for.

You are not showing anyone respect by getting upset with them over not standing. They are expressing their rights and with wanting them to stand you are supressing their rights. It isn't respect, it is fear if you force them to stand.
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Old 03-28-2011, 05:47 AM
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when i was in boot camp in fort jackson south caronlina i remember a guy beside me was spanish up and the guy told everybody to stand up to do the pledge and national anthem and they guy beside me was sittin down and the D.I ripped him a new one and ol boy told the D.I iam sorry sir i wasnt born in this country and i havent felt that i am givin the respect to this great country till i fight for this country and i am done with the years in this miltary fightin for the freedom that this great country gives to anybody sir. and nobody even the D.I didnt even know what to say to that.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:35 AM
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i dont stand for the pledge of allegiance. i havent done it in probably 6 years. you can hate me all you want but i dont support americas actions throughout the world and there for choose not to pledge my allegiance to it. i dont sit there and wist and be rude or disrespectul during it and i do respect other peoples decision to do as they wish during the pledge and i do disagree with people that fuck around disrespectfully during it.


i disagree with those actions just as much as you do. i feel ignorant shits like them display a poor reflection of those who choose not to for reasons other then being an idiot.
If you dont like paying respect and pledging allegiance to the country you live in, feel free to get the fuck out and take the others with you.

I dont know who said it, but this quote comes to mind:
"IF YOU WON'T STAND BEHIND OUR TROOPS, FEEL FREE TO STAND IN FRONT OF THEM"

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"By pledging allegiance to our flag,we are honoring and remembering the men and women that gave their lives for this Country and your sorry butts!"
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:58 AM
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come on now, that's just arrogant and makes you look like a bigger prick than the guy sitting down during the anthem.

I don't always stand for it if I don't feel like it. I have recited 102503250 times, 1 more time isn't going to mean anything but when I do recite it, I leave out the under god part.
It is important that people be given the choice to pledge without being forced to use religious concepts in it. I always stand and put my hand/hat over my heart, but I have not said under God since I was a child. Saying it makes me uncomfortable because I do not believe in God. I think that part should be open to whatever religious entity you do or do not believe in.
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Old 03-28-2011, 06:56 PM
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Old 03-28-2011, 07:05 PM
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If you dont like paying respect and pledging allegiance to the country you live in, feel free to get the fuck out and take the others with you.

So what your saying is believe what I believe in or gtfo? Can you please tell me where freedom, that thing that people say makes america great, plays part in that senario. If anything telling me that either I agree or you will send your troops against me sounds more like a dictatorship.
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Old 03-29-2011, 11:09 PM
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Old 03-30-2011, 03:42 PM
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First time i ever got in trouble at school was for yelling at a kid who wouldnt stand for the pledge. i am unable to serve do to a shoulder injury from hs but have a friend in afganistan serving and one at pendelton but if i could serve i would i think if you want to be disrespectful then do it somewhere else but not there i hate ppl who are like "oh im not gonna say it"
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Old 03-30-2011, 04:07 PM
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Amen to that. People should stand for the pledge, national anthem, etc, and It damn well better have under God in it!
Before you know it God will be eliminated...just like the 10 commandments out of the school and now wanting to take it off money.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:19 PM
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Before you know it God will be eliminated...just like the 10 commandments out of the school and now wanting to take it off money.
Who's god are you saying is the god in "one nation under god"?

I am all for people who want to keep god in the Pledge, but I also support people who do not want it in.

We are a nation built on religious morals of our founding fathers, but we were also a nation given the ability to choose what religion we want, or non at all.

It is that pesky 1st amendment again. I'll put it on here incase you forgot it.

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For my personal belief, this means that if a person wishes to not say "god" in the Pledge then it is their right to not say it.

And anyone of says that people should be saying god, are the ones who are hurting freedom and not supporting a persons rights!

I feel we can leave "god" in the Pledge and on our money, as long as we do not start mandating which god we are saying it is. Leave "god" up to individual interpretation and we can all go to bed happy.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:33 PM
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First of all George Washington believed in God and America was basically a Christian country. Yes, there was a couple of forefathers who didn't believe in a higher power.

But America was a Christian nation until some Communist Atheistic basterds consumed it with their liberal BS.

Yes, it's ok to have other religions here but not to destroy our Christian background either.
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Old 03-30-2011, 06:59 PM
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i didnt say the pledge for the last few yrs of HS and have always left out 'under god'. i am currently active duty US Navy and still feel the same way about our government - it is shit. however i do what i do because i love the US as a country and i love the people here. our government is failing miserably. and even though i am a government tool to do whatever they please, i feel as though i serve the people, not the government. anyway, i feel the people who dont say the pledge and are educated and have an actual opinion, like myself and the others on here who have made good points, should be allowed to do so without negative feedback. those who do it out of pure lazyness, or just to be a 'rebel', well fuck em'
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Old 03-30-2011, 09:53 PM
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i feel the people who dont say the pledge and are educated and have an actual opinion, like myself and the others on here who have made good points, should be allowed to do so without negative feedback. those who do it out of pure lazyness, or just to be a 'rebel', well fuck em'

I agree 100%.
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