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Old 03-04-2011, 03:14 PM
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I sold a 96 safari van and had electrical and alternatior problems with it the whole time. I sold it on craigslist for 1550 and I told them the problems I had had in the past. I thought I fixed the problems but I only fixed half the problem. On the title I put 50 dollars so the sales tax in michigan wouldn't be a huge deal for them. two weeks later they call me and said it won't start... same issues I had had in the past. They wanted there money back or for me to fix a fuel pump issue the van has. I told them no way on both. It wasn't my fault they didn't even pop the hood or look under it when they baught it. Now there saying they want to take me to small claims court... should I worry? I mean I'm 19 and don't have the money for thrm anyways. And they baught it as is. What should I do? I know I'm on aford ranger fourm but there are enough of you car guys on here that know the answer.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:15 PM
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i think that because you warned them about previous issues ur fine...
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:30 PM
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Default Re: question on lemon laws

This has nothing to do with lemon laws as this is a private sale. However you should be in the clear, they have absolutely no case.

Let's see:
- 15 year old car has problems
- Seller tells buyer car has problems
- Buyer experiences problems and demands refund

Unless Michigan has some unusual laws there is nothing they can say or do to win a case like this.

With that said, I seriously doubt they would even consider taking you to small claims court, it's more than likely just an empty thread.

So mind you that they will not take you to small claims court so even if they did and if they somehow did win the case (not going to happen), the maximum judgment they could get would be for a full refund of the sales price, which just so happens to be legally documented by both parties as being $50.

Once again, this is all presuming Michigan does not have some unique laws pertaining to this subject.

Disclaimer: This post should not be interpreted as legal advice and you should not rely upon this information for making a legal decision. Consult a lawyer to get professional legal advice.
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:38 PM
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thats the way kansas is. you make a private party deal you buy the car "as is". buddy of mine sold his 96 Trans Am for 5500 that had been driven up to the day he sold it. the 17 yr old kid bought it and was bought "as is". it just so happens that on the way back, it blew a head gasket, and their is now a crack in the head all the way up the side of the head (taken with a grain of salt). he said "well im sorry, its just a coincidence, im not going to refund all your money, but i will pay to get a new head on it" guy said no and they sued him. my buddy won the case and never had to give them money. you should be in the clear, unless, like stated above, michigan has an unusual law.

Disclaimer: This post should not be interpreted as legal advice and you should not rely upon this information for making a legal decision. Consult a lawyer to get professional legal advice. (just to be safe. lol)
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:45 PM
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Hahaha on all the disclaimer hahaha... your all good but I hear ya loud and clear... I almost feel bad but I had to get rid of the van and I warnd them. I was looking up the lemon laws for mi and didn't see anything that's unique. Apprieciate the feed back guys
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Old 03-04-2011, 03:47 PM
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My dad had this happen to him before. Sold his 79 F350 to a guy, who actually was buying the truck for his son. The truck at this point was 12 years old, and an 18 year old kid was behind the wheel. The truck had a suspension lift on it that was installed by whoever owned the truck before my dad. Apparently one night the kid was driving home from somewhere, and the steering got messed up, and the kid wrecked the truck. His parents came after my dad spewing bull shit about how it was his fault the truck broke. I'm pretty sure Dad had to go to court for it, but It turns out the dumb kid was speeding around a curve in a 1 ton lifted truck. So my dad was cleared, and the kid lost his license until he was 21. Some people are *******es, and quick to blame other people for their own problems. That's why when you sell a vehicle you should ALWAYS make the buyer sign an "As Is" document. If they refuse to sign it, then no deal, because that's a sign they'll try and come after you for it. I signed one when I bought both of my Rangers, the first one being private party, and the second one being a dealer. "As Is" documents are what keeps you from even having to attend court, since it proves that you made the buyer aware that you were selling the vehicle "As Is".
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Old 03-04-2011, 06:29 PM
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The van would not fall under any lemon law in Michigan.

http://www.michigan.gov/sos/0,1607,7...3885--,00.html

I am fairly certain Michigan does not have any laws that are going to make you pay to fix the van now that it is sold. It is part of buying a used vehicle. You told them it had issues and they still paid you, so it is their issue.

I would not even offer to pay or help to fix the van.

Like above, my advice is just personal advice and not legal advice. If you are worried about it, find a lawyer and talk to them. A lot of times they will talk to you without charge.
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Old 03-05-2011, 09:16 AM
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lemon laws only apply to authorized dealers. not private sellers and since the buyer signed the title, he aknowledges all financial responsibilities from that point on.
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Old 03-05-2011, 10:49 AM
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Thanks for all that help... I was worried(still am a little) but not nearly as much as I was. I knew frf would be better than yahoo answers on this question
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