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Old 02-20-2011, 12:54 PM
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I'm not sure how people can say it's a dieing industry... I mean, when it comes to carpentry work that's a profession that will always be needed. And Jimmeh, just 'cause you hate it doesn't mean this guy will too...

I do agree with doing some work though... I guess I assumed you'd already done that.
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Old 02-20-2011, 03:59 PM
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I'm not sure how people can say it's a dieing industry... I mean, when it comes to carpentry work that's a profession that will always be needed. And Jimmeh, just 'cause you hate it doesn't mean this guy will too...

I do agree with doing some work though... I guess I assumed you'd already done that.
Economics, DIY'ers and Big Box Stores killing home building and improvement industry, ask anyone in the trades.

Get a college degree in business or a general study, it shows a potential employer you have the ability to learn and can handle higher education and does not lock you into a specific trade or field.
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Old 02-20-2011, 04:17 PM
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I'm not sure what the requirements for carpentry is there, but here in BC it's a trade with a 4 year program. Each year requires a minimum number of apprenticeship hours and most places won't even look at hiring casual labour unless they have they're first or second year done.
My sister's bf just finished his fourth year, is making about $35/hr plus OT. Has the opportunity to travel to Australia with the company he's with next year for a few months to finish a project there.
It all depends on where you plan on living and working, some places are high demand while others might not be. I happen to live in a heavy trades area, and people with business degrees can't find work here - a few of my friends are working for minimum wage at a call center and living at home with huge student loans because they can't find work. Just another thing to consider.
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Old 02-20-2011, 08:53 PM
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Economics, DIY'ers and Big Box Stores killing home building and improvement industry, ask anyone in the trades.
Yea it's affecting it but it doesn't mean it's a dead industry. Big box stores affect my industry a lot but we still have people who prefer not to go that route, and we've had to adjust our practices a little to accommodate. At the end of the day everyone lives in a building and not everyone has the skills to do work to that structure.... I hate to see a guy give up what he WANTS to do 'cause everyone is pissing on it 'cause they don't think it's the right way to go. If you love your job, and become good at it, you learn to fill a void and can be extremely successful regardless of what the task is. The guys running huge corporations aren't the only ones making good money....
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:31 PM
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I'm not sure how people can say it's a dieing industry... I mean, when it comes to carpentry work that's a profession that will always be needed. And Jimmeh, just 'cause you hate it doesn't mean this guy will too...

I do agree with doing some work though... I guess I assumed you'd already done that.
I can say it's dying because I am in the trade and I see it dying around me. Even the big companies are complaining about trying to find work, especially when even the rich people and corporations are trying to cut spending by NOT opening new locations or building new buildings. Remodels are about the only thing keeping anybody in business, and even that is a rare thing to find.

Yes, it is a needed profession, and yes you can still find work if you look really hard, but you have to pretty much get out a magnifying glass and find it that way. Plus, the prices of materials are going up every day and as stated, the economy is continuing to go down. I see soon that a lot of companies will be shutting their doors maybe not for good, but only until things do start happening.

I'm saying this from experience, not just pulling it out of my ass. Unless you are in the oil fields building, or you are with one of the larger companies, you are pretty much stuck with the low paying short jobs or none at all.

I am adding to long book, but I will say it again. I am NOT trying to tell you to give up on something you are passionate about. Go ahead and test the waters and try your darndest to get a local job in the carpentry field. All I am saying is don't go to trade school when you can get out in the field and learn more then what they can teach you, AND you will MAKE money rather then spend it. Another piece of advice that I will give you is to go to a local job service and ask for information on apprenticeships. They should give you a book on your local apprenticeship rules and regulations, and give you numbers to current employers looking for apprentices. Be careful about accepting these because some of them will leave out the part that it is an UNPAID apprenticeship and they will even make you pay for some of the training, but there are people out there who will take you under their wing and are willing to pay you.

Not only that, but if you talk to them, there may be companies who are hiring laborers for maybe a couple of days of cleanup or something. TAKE THOSE JOBS! When you get on the job, work your ass off, and let your supervisor know that you are willing to do more then just push a broom, but you'll be happy to do that for a while. Ask questions and when you get answers, ask more. Ask different people the same questions and get their answers and techniques on a different job.

Whatever you decide to do, I wish you the best of luck and the offer still stands that if you have any other questions or even if you need some advice on a project, PM me.
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Old 02-20-2011, 09:57 PM
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I just wanted to say that I don't believe I ever said you would hate it, nor do I think you will since you seem like you're passionate enough about it.
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