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Old 11-24-2010, 08:15 AM
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SO a 3yr old can make decisions for themselves?

The kid was 3yrs old when mom and dad came here. He had no choice to come. Now since he is here illegally because of mom and dad and not his choice, a lot of you are saying he should not have been allowed in school? A child does not have a say for what their parents do, and for that you would punish them.

How can you live in the USA and tell me you have all of these rights and freedoms but you are not going to let a child go to school because his parents are illegal immigrants?

edgeman4.0, have you ever been to Guatemala? Do you know anything about the political and social problems that the country has had in the past? The parents may well be afraid for their lives.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:16 AM
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Yeah I've noticed the same, it's alot of ppl on here that throw off the "redneck"/"racist" vibe on here(no offense) but maybe you people that fall into that category should just stfu, I know everyone has their own opinion but there is also another saying "if ya ain't got anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" or "to each to their own"
Again I THANK EVERYONE THAT HAS SIGNED THE PETITION, it is grately appreciated
I like how one race card is pulled and the story automatically shifts to something completely off topic. Race is not the issue here. Another thing that is funny is the people your referring to as "rednecks" are the only ones asking logical questions on here.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:20 AM
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No I'm referring to "rednecks" as ppl who only think rangers are built for getting lil lifts with 33"+ tires, then deciding to attempt to bash on someone who wants to be different than them and add 18-22" rims and low profile tires. I have no problem with ppl asking questions I am trying to answer them as bet as I can, all I did was ask to read and sign the petition if you don't mind, I never planned on this shit to turn into a straight war of words on race or any of that
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:25 AM
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but as for as my statement that a lot of people here seem to be affraid yeah I think that. I think alot do not travel also. But maybe when they grow up
they will have more of an open mind and travel meet new and exciting people
I've been all around the US and out of the country quite a few times with my favorite places to visit being those that are a lot different than US.

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Yeah I've noticed the same, it's alot of ppl on here that throw off the "redneck"/"racist" vibe on here(no offense) but maybe you people that fall into that category should just stfu, I know everyone has their own opinion but there is also another saying "if ya ain't got anything nice to say then don't say anything at all" or "to each to their own"
The whole racist thing aside, I think the saying "to each their own" only really applies IF IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. You might be the nicest guy in the world but if you commit a crime you will go to jail. Welcome to the US!
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:27 AM
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I just read another article that said his family is in hiding but have hired an attorney for their son(WTF). This situation is all kinds of shady. I still don't understand how his family made it this long with out ever being noticed? His parents don't speak English and neither have high school diplomas? Why doesn't one of them step up and help their son? Are they just gonna stay in hiding forever? Even if he is allowed to stay they will just go after his family next. I understand he did not come here by choice but his family did so they are actually the guilty ones here and they are letting their son take the fall for it. Like it has been said before, there are holes in this story for sure.
I'm glad to see someone else doing a little bit of research to find out more facts.

i agree, this story is shady as all hell.
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seems like a lot of folks on this forum are affraid, if another person has dark skin or don't speak english very well, I guess those same people do not get out of their own house very offten or travel for that matter. Better get Dick the Chaney back in office to keep you guys safe.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
Who the hell are you to make a statement like that? You dont know me, my beliefs or my background other than the fact that i dont think America should be harboring illegal immigrants because they "fear for their life".. To hell with you and the liberal horse you rode in on.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:30 AM
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I'm glad to see someone else doing a little bit of research to find out more facts.

i agree, this story is shady as all hell.


Who the hell are you to make a statement like that? You dont know me, my beliefs or my background other than the fact that i dont think America should be harboring illegal immigrants because they "fear for their life".. To hell with you and the liberal horse you rode in on.
I never mentioned your name so I KNOW you took it to HEART and the SHOE FITS YA.
to hell with you jack, go to Alaska and play with Palin . hahahahahaHAHAHA
and by the way I am the Democrat you fear
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:34 AM
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seems like a lot of folks on this forum are affraid, if another person has dark skin or don't speak english very well, I guess those same people do not get out of their own house very offten or travel for that matter. Better get Dick the Chaney back in office to keep you guys safe.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
i will speak for myself when i say i dont appreciate being called a racist the way that you imply in that statement. the fact that i happen to support being an actual tax paying contributing legal citizen of this country by no means makes me racist. skin color and language aside, laws are laws and he is living here illegally. i know many many years ago my ancestors came to this country looking to better them selfs and they did so legally by becoming citizens and contributing members of society so i have no issue with anyone that immigrates to this country but they need to do it legally. ive been around the world and have seen many places and experienced cultures that most people wont ever see or want to see so im not afraid of whats past my doorstep here in the USA by any means. i dont support illegals regardless of creed or color, plain and simple and i have no sympathy for the ones that get caught.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:35 AM
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The kid was 3yrs old when mom and dad came here. He had no choice to come. Now since he is here illegally because of mom and dad and not his choice, a lot of you are saying he should not have been allowed in school? A child does not have a say for what their parents do, and for that you would punish them.
I'm not saying he shouldn't get an education because his parents brought him here illegally, I'm saying the government should have caught this and sent him back to his own country so he could get his education there.

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How can you live in the USA and tell me you have all of these rights and freedoms but you are not going to let a child go to school because his parents are illegal immigrants?
You are exactly right, I have all these rights and freedoms, not him or his family. As harsh as that seems, that is the way things are. The entire world can't just become citizens of the US on a whim.

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edgeman4.0, have you ever been to Guatemala? Do you know anything about the political and social problems that the country has had in the past? The parents may well be afraid for their lives.
I know you referred to edgman, but since I have been just as vocal as him I will answer you. I have never been to Guatemala, however my brother is married to a half Guatemalan who was born and raised there and he has been to Guatemala as well. I've heard about their political system and their problems (she had been kidnapped three times I believe) but she apparently doesn't think it is so bad as to fear for her life and not visit. Not all places to live are ideal and if you want to change that work hard and apply for citizenship.

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and by the way I am the Democrat you fear
Yes, you are the Democrat I fear. Not because you are a Democrat, but because you are uninformed and make baseless decisions that could ruin this country.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:36 AM
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I like how one race card is pulled and the story automatically shifts to something completely off topic. Race is not the issue here. Another thing that is funny is the people your referring to as "rednecks" are the only ones asking logical questions on here.
I was thinking the exact same thing.lol
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No I'm referring to "rednecks" as ppl who only think rangers are built for getting lil lifts with 33"+ tires, then deciding to attempt to bash on someone who wants to be different than them and add 18-22" rims and low profile tires. I have no problem with ppl asking questions I am trying to answer them as bet as I can, all I did was ask to read and sign the petition if you don't mind, I never planned on this shit to turn into a straight war of words on race or any of that
Would you rather just call me out by name? You dont know shit about me or what i stand for other than the fact that i sad 20's are gay and that you'll look like a wannabe homeboy.

That being said, way to play back into the very thing you were trying to plea a case for.. You're just as prejudice as you accuse me and everyone else of being. Perhaps not in the same way.... But prejudice nonetheless.
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I think the saying "to each their own" only really applies IF IT IS NOT ILLEGAL. You might be the nicest guy in the world but if you commit a crime you will go to jail. Welcome to the US!
^^ 100% agreed
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:39 AM
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he is a good kid, never done anything wrong, always does the right thing and you honestly couldn't meet a nicer guy
So for the 800th time, then why is he in jail??
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:40 AM
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So for the 800th time, then why is he in jail??
It's already been said in the forums and the article, he got into a car accident and was arrested when the cops came.
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:43 AM
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i will speak for myself when i say i dont appreciate being called a racist the way that you imply in that statement. the fact that i happen to support being an actual tax paying contributing legal citizen of this country by no means makes me racist. skin color and language aside, laws are laws and he is living here illegally. i know many many years ago my ancestors came to this country looking to better them selfs and they did so legally by becoming citizens and contributing members of society so i have no issue with anyone that immigrates to this country but they need to do it legally. ive been around the world and have seen many places and experienced cultures that most people wont ever see or want to see so im not afraid of whats past my doorstep here in the USA by any means. i dont support illegals regardless of creed or color, plain and simple and i have no sympathy for the ones that get caught.
I have not called anyone a racist by name or any other ways. Sorry you take it to heart.
That is how I see it .

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Old 11-24-2010, 08:43 AM
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The part that pisses me off about all of this immigration shit and people just wanting to be granted citizenship is the fact that I too have a friend that is an "alien" Now.....

She came to this country as an au-pair and while here decided she loved this country.....she worked, paid taxes, and was even a volunteer firefighter/emt....so....only in the country for a couple years and already doing MORE for the community than most that are "natural" citizens.

She meets another friend of mine...they end up getting married...He is in the Marines...well all the while they are paying thousands...yes you got that right...for filing, extensions to her visa, more legal filings, lawyers...

Well he ends up getting orders for Iraq.....and her visa will expire while he is on his 1 year tour....now what do you do?

THIS is what pisses me off...people who think they have a "story" and are more worthy of becoming a citizen of this great country, more than those that are attempting at doing it the correct way.

I say let happen what will happen...he can get in line with all the others attempting to gain citizenship. He has already benefited by getting a higher education than most in his native country. I'm sure he will find good employment, hell could run the country LOL

The good ending to my story is after a letter writing campaign to the governor and a few senators, her application was accepted and happily ever after....

But the balls of some people thinking they should just be "granted citizenship" pisses me off....There is the right way, and the wrong way to do something. We should not reward those that go about the wrong way....we should show and teach them the right way.

As for Guatemala, I'm sure he will be fine.....I've met plenty from that country, not as dire as some would have you think.

I do wish him good luck, and hopefully he can gain legal status here going about things in the proper way. And if this works out for him bravo....but no I don't feel bad or sorry for what it took for him to get legal, it SHOULD be a fight....it shouldn't be easy, it should mean something.

oh well, rant off LOL
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:45 AM
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I just read another article that said his family is in hiding but have hired an attorney for their son(WTF)..
See, its people like this that make me sick. How did they get the money for a lawyer if they are here illegally? People like this are the reason I cant find a fucking job. and dont give me that shit that they only get take jobs that lazy americans dont want. I would scrape roadkill if there wasnt a line of 50 illegals willing to do it for less than minimum wage.


How did your friend get a drivers license and insurance without being a citizen?
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Old 11-24-2010, 08:47 AM
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I have not called anyone a racist by name or any other ways. Sorry you take it to heart.
That is how I see it .
Then you need thicker glasses, old man.
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