Gun Advice

ZWilson07 · #1 09-27-2010, 01:37 PM

Hey guys im going to be looking into starting my gun collection. and was looking for some opinions of what would be some good medium range brands and such to go with. to help narrow it down, how about some choices for a 9mm handgun and 12 gauge shotgun. thanks, zach.

edgeman4.0 · #2 09-27-2010, 01:45 PM

ruger, glock, mossberg, remington,

TurdFX4 · #3 09-27-2010, 02:11 PM

Honestly I wouldnt buy a 9mm

as far as handguns, you cant go wrong with Ruger or Springfield

as far as shotguns, depending on what you want to spend, Remington 870 Express is a great starter shotgun, relatively cheap too, around $280.00-$320.00-ish

edgeman4.0 · #4 09-27-2010, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by TurdFX4

Honestly I wouldnt buy a 9mm

as far as handguns, you cant go wrong with Ruger or Springfield

as far as shotguns, depending on what you want to spend, Remington 870 Express is a great starter shotgun, relatively cheap too, around $280.00-$320.00-ish

maybe you should stick to shotguns turd....

he's just starting out, meaning he should become accustomed with a small caliber handgun. THEN move up. its not like he's going to be carrying right off the bat. Or at least i'd hope not.

01_ranger_4x4 · #5 09-27-2010, 02:51 PM

my advice, especially if youre not familiar with handguns or firearms in general is to go to your local gun store and rent a few different pistols if they have a range. shoot different calibers, different models and types (auto, revolver ect). if you dont have a range near you, at least go handle some different pistols, see what is comfortable in your hands. what gun is good for you might not be for the next guy, get a pistol that fits you. youll get a hundred different opinions here about what gun you should buy and all of them will be different. also think about what you will be using the pistol for (home/ self defense, concealed carry, taget shooting or plinking) because that may help you decide on what type of pistol/ caliber will work best for you. as far as shotguns go, two of the most well known entry level models are the remington 870 (express is the cheapest model 870) and the mossberg 500. I personally have an 870 express 12 gauge and its been a great gun, its not overly flashy or fancy but it sends lead downrange reliably and thats another quality i look for in a firearm. but the same goes for the shotgun that goes with the pistol, what do you intend to use it for? hunting? target shooting? defense? ect.

ZWilson07 · #6 09-27-2010, 03:10 PM

ive been around some guns, with family in law enforcement n the few we have around the house. my dad was just never a big hunter so the few times ive used shotguns n rifles was down at the range with friends or the occasional hunting. im very comfortable with revolvers but i suggested 9mm because it was just going to b for self defense n just to start out small becming very comfortable with them, etc. Again with the shotgun, its only going to be for self defense, occasional hunting, n range shooting or some clays. so basically what id like to focus on for this thread is just a good 12 gauge shotgun. good middle gun, not really expensive and flashy, just a good medium gun you know. so basically mossberg 500 or remington 870 would be good start?

01_ranger_4x4 · #7 09-27-2010, 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ZWilson07

ive been around some guns, with family in law enforcement n the few we have around the house. my dad was just never a big hunter so the few times ive used shotguns n rifles was down at the range with friends or the occasional hunting. im very comfortable with revolvers but i suggested 9mm because it was just going to b for self defense n just to start out small becming very comfortable with them, etc. Again with the shotgun, its only going to be for self defense, occasional hunting, n range shooting or some clays. so basically what id like to focus on for this thread is just a good 12 gauge shotgun. good middle gun, not really expensive and flashy, just a good medium gun you know. so basically mossberg 500 or remington 870 would be good start?

yeah its hard to go wrong with an 870 or moss 500 because they are so easily customizable. you can get different barrels, stocks, optics and mounts, extended magazines ect. you can make the gun what you want it to be. great starter guns and great all around shotguns IMO.

ZWilson07 · #8 09-27-2010, 03:36 PM

if u had to choose 1 of them, which 1 would it be an why? also do you all buy your guns locally, or online, or mixture of both just depending on whereyou can find the best deal or what?

01_ranger_4x4 · #9 09-27-2010, 03:47 PM

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if u had to choose 1 of them, which 1 would it be an why? also do you all buy your guns locally, or online, or mixture of both just depending on whereyou can find the best deal or what?

i personally like the 870 over the 500 after handling and shooting both. i like the feel, action and fit and finish of the 870 over the mossberg. i prefer to buy all my guns local just because i want to see and feel the gun before i buy it.

sgtsandman · #10 09-27-2010, 04:00 PM

The shotgun recommendations are good as a good all around general purpose shotgun. You can't go wrong with either.

Pistols on the other hand are very personal. If you are looking for licensed carry, most prefer an semiautomatic because they are generally slimmer and more comfortable to carry. Many like the 9mm, the .380, or the .40. You can also get a pretty small .45 ACP.

If you are looking for personal defense at home, I would recommend a Taurus Judge because it can shoot .410 shot shells and .45 Long Colt. Shot shells are ideal because you don't have to worry about missing because it's dark and aim isn't all the critical at close range. Plus, you don't have to worry about shooting up the neighbor's house where as with a bullet, it will go through your wall and more than likely through the neighbor's wall if you miss.

ZWilson07 · #11 09-27-2010, 04:41 PM

01 ranger, yeah I was talking to my good friend that I go to the range with and work with and he said he likes the 870 better as well. he likes it cause its heavier, feels less recoil on it, and that the reciever is made of steel instead of the mossbergs aluminum and just overall likes both guns but if he had to choose, would go with the 870. Also I see there are about a million variations, and I think stated earleir the cheapest one would be the express, but they also come in synthetic pump, 28 inch barrel, 26 inch barrel, compact??? whats really the different or what matters between all the different versions of the express alone?

trcothorn · #12 09-27-2010, 04:58 PM

the ruger p95 is a good choice for 9 mm and you can get them for about 300-400 bucks. they are very reliable and good quality for the price.
for the shotgun i guess u already know that the 870 or m500 is the best choices if you are looking for good price. ive got 2 moss 500s and i love them both and they are a little cheaper than the 870

01_ranger_4x4 · #13 09-27-2010, 05:10 PM

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01 ranger, yeah I was talking to my good friend that I go to the range with and work with and he said he likes the 870 better as well. he likes it cause its heavier, feels less recoil on it, and that the reciever is made of steel instead of the mossbergs aluminum and just overall likes both guns but if he had to choose, would go with the 870. Also I see there are about a million variations, and I think stated earleir the cheapest one would be the express, but they also come in synthetic pump, 28 inch barrel, 26 inch barrel, compact??? whats really the different or what matters between all the different versions of the express alone?

i got the express with the cheapo laminated wood stock because i planned on adding a camo synthetic stock right away. also the express comes with whats called a "parkerized" barrel and receiver giving it a more flat finish instead of the shiny blued finish on the more expensive models, i prefer the flat finish for hunting. i think the express just comes with one choice of barrel length, IIRC its 28".

ZWilson07 · #14 09-27-2010, 05:15 PM

oh ok, and yeah the only express I seen either have the wood or that flat black. I think the camo looks tight but if I just keep it in my truck and use it as home protection, it might be better to keep the dark flat black you know??

01_ranger_4x4 · #15 09-27-2010, 05:25 PM

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oh ok, and yeah the only express I seen either have the wood or that flat black. I think the camo looks tight but if I just keep it in my truck and use it as home protection, it might be better to keep the dark flat black you know??

yeah, i couldnt find a black stock express when i got mine, i would have gotten that one instead. the wood stock on the express is not that great. you start getting nicer stocks and better looking blued finishes in the more pricey models but the action is the same with all the 870 models, it just lacks some of the bells and whistles and shiny stuff.

heres my 870 with the 28" smooth bore barrel that the express comes with. note the flat not shiny finish

in this one it has a shorter rifled slug barrel with the shiny blued finish.

you can see the difference here.