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Old 06-15-2010, 09:41 PM
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I think admitting defeat is the hardest thing in the world for black people to do. I'm not sure if anybody on here is black, but if you are, you'll probably argue this with me because of the fact that I'm actually right and you're wrong and you just can't admit it.
not trying to sound racist but i agree with this. alot of the young blacks around where i live cant handle being told what to do... especially the the girls, just like in the video
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:46 PM
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Don't worry about being racist. Just speak your mind.
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:49 PM
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haha i would rather not say whats really on my mind for fear of being banned
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:50 PM
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Old 06-15-2010, 09:55 PM
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It just is sad it's an on going thing with Seattle pd I mean there's been sometimes where the cops are definantly in the wrong but this is just plain bs
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Old 06-15-2010, 10:21 PM
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The cop deserves to be known as a kid-girl beater for even ticketing someone for jaywalking....But in all honesty, he was in the right. This isnt about black and white, as many people are trying to make it out to be. This is about the immunity that kids think they have over adults and authority figures of any kind. If someone lays a hand on someone under 18, its a media superstorm. Spare the rod spoil the child...If a kid has no reason to fear physical discipline, then they will do whatever they want. That girl walked into that thinking that she could do whatever she wanted and if he touched her, she would automatically become the victim.

What happened? She attacked an officer and when he used the least amount of force possible (i mean no weapon) she automatically became the victim. Sometimes kids wont learn without a little physical reinforcement...I bet she thinks twice about assaulting an officer again.
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Old 06-15-2010, 11:55 PM
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Okay. I noticed a ton of you mentioned that SOMEONE COULD HAVE BEEN ARMED. Well go to mynorthwest.com and find the Ron and Don show or the link that says "is it a gun?" and check it out. It appears that a black male subject wearing a full brim hat, is holding a revolver by his side. It sure looks like it. Maybe its not, who knows. But all that cop wants to do is get home to his family at the end of shift. I think he handled himself well.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:10 AM
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Well, on the other hand, you guys can monday morning quarterback this whole thing all you want. But I ask.... How many of YOU have been in a similar situation?
How many of you have tried to handcuff someone that doesn't want to be handcuffed? Especially solo?
I can honestly say, to a point, I have. I used to work less than a mile from there doing residential security work for low income housing (Projects basically) and it's tough to do. People don't listen to the cops in the area, let alone a guard. Most times the first thing that came out of their mouth was "You only talkin to me cuz I'm black!" or "Get your F&@%in hands off me cracker!!" things like that.

One day, my work partner and I broke up a fight in a building, and there must have been 20 people around. Here we are, trying to get this dude under control while keeping the other guy off him, and my buddie's on the phone with the cops. One of the guys in that large group must have been a leader or something, but he told us "You don't get the hell out of here, we're gonna beat your a$$". Well, not it's no longer about controlling the combatants. It's about saving my butt. My buddy relays this to 911 dispatcher, and I thought that getting our backs to the wall would be best. We got out the pepper, and this kept them at bay and shortly after, the police show up and everyone scatters.

I had a million and one thoughts go through my head about what we could do. We could have kept on the guys fighting, but, then it would have left us vulnerable. Instead, we let em go and went on the defensive. It's not like we didn't have descriptions. I could have started spraying, but, if my can had run out and I hadn't got them all, I'd be toast. Pepper Spray also tends to go all over, often getting me as well with backspray. That's also a bad thing when you've gota to keep en eye on everyone.

After this, the company I was working for went to having armed officers.

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No, he doesn't. He was doing his job. He'd just tcketed someone else (a male) for jaywalking, it would be discriminatory not to ticket these 2 girls for the same thing. Some things, sometimes, you can let go. But if you're already on something, like this Officer was, it serves no purpose for treating someone differently because it's girls, or because they're black, or because they watch Barney. If someone is going to enforce a law, it should be fairly enforced to all.

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Unfortunately, I'd bet she won't. Many people in that area seem to think they should do whatever they wish and that Law Enforcement has no right to push consequenses. There's ALOT of "If I was white you'd have left me alone". Even to black Officers. "Uncle Toms" they call em, amongst many other things. These kids tend to hide behind the race card, and have no problem pulling it every single time the're caught being stupid. And... People like the NAACP are here to not only condone it, but promote it. I've NEVER seen them condemn someones actions if that person was black. It's considered just I guess, by the NAACP. If it had been reverse, nothing would have even made the news. Just another cracker getting what she deserved. Unfortunate, but true.
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Old 06-16-2010, 12:22 AM
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Totaly agree ^^^
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Old 06-16-2010, 01:20 AM
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In fact, it continues with a longer video that shows after the punch: Here

Unfortunately, I don't think that Officer's gonna be doing Police Work for much longer. I doubt he'll be held criminally liable, but to get the heat off the department, they'll probably let him go, thus ruining his LE career. It sucks, because a video can end a cops career, and thus making it so that you can no longer do you job because of fear that you'll be caught on camera and canned over it. The media is good at spinning cops in a negative light (or service members, or government of any sort unless it follows the media's agenda, or...). That seriously should be a crime itself, creating a frenzy by putting a negative spin on something and making it out to be something that it wasn't.

"I'm gonna beat the S$&T Mexican Piss out you you homey, got me??" is another fine example of this. Video filmed at an inconveniant moment, and put out as "Obvious Law Enforcement Abuse". But, that Gang Officer worked day in and day out with the roughest, worst, people we have in our society. They have to be rough to be able to deal with it, it's a rough group they're dealing with. So, talking roughly should not be a crime, or reason for a fuss. But, there, it's been made into a Hispanic Rodney King. In that video, you can see that the guy they were checking out wouldn't stop moving. He kept moving his legs, and the female Officer used her foot to pin his legs down. He kept moving his hands, and the Officer in question put his foot on his wrist to stop it, apparently bumping the guys head with the toe of his shoe. Hardly a beating. Heck, the cop in the MLK Jr Way Vid had juicier content than that! If it hadn't been popular at this point in time to redicule the Police, this wouldn't have even been newsworthy. But, that's what it is. People working to put law enforcement in a bad light, undermine their efforts, and do all people can to make their job harder to do. What is REALLY crappy is that the race card gets pulled even when the police arrive to help someone out! "You'd have been here sooner if I was a white chick" or some other such thing. So the police can't win no matter what. They're wrong for even trying.

Those of you here who want to monday morning quarterback our Police Officers' Efforts, I suggest you go do a ride along. Take the time to talk to these guys. Ask questions. Get their side of things. Maybe try doing that sort of work yourself! It's no easy task. And remember your negative thoughts when you need help from them. Then ask yourself, was it really called for for me to call them weak? Or whatever?
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Old 06-16-2010, 03:58 AM
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On his side all I can think is that he was attempting to be "gentle" to gain compliance...all that resulted was a struggle, time for someone else to get ticked off enough to try to obstruct what the officer was doing, and was dealt with.

Now myself in that situation and how we are trained. The second someone attempts to resist an arrest, they are imediately delt with by any force matching or slighty above the force resisting....what does this mean?

The girl he was attempting to cuff...would of had a nice arm bar take down, wristlock "slammed" onto the cruiser which is called a body stun...causes the "stars" to show which can make cuffing a hell of a lot easier...there are plenty of tools at an officers disposal, I would have to see how they train their officers in their defencive tactics though...as it didn't appear he used any standard training done within the past 15-20 years....

We use films like this to show that if you're going to put the cuffs on someone, do it as quick as possible, no time for explaining, talking, dilly dally...get em on and then worry about explinaitons. If you have to apply a few head stuns, knee blitzes, or all out put on the ground then so be it....but when you decide it's time for cuffs..."it's on" reguardless of how you feel of the person being arrested......

oh well it's done, ofcourse the NAACP will say it was "wrong"...would love to see them out there enforcing the laws.....and how they handle combative situations
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Old 06-16-2010, 04:42 AM
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No, he doesn't. He was doing his job. He'd just tcketed someone else (a male) for jaywalking, it would be discriminatory not to ticket these 2 girls for the same thing. Some things, sometimes, you can let go. But if you're already on something, like this Officer was, it serves no purpose for treating someone differently because it's girls, or because they're black, or because they watch Barney. If someone is going to enforce a law, it should be fairly enforced to all.
Jaywalking is a ******* thing to ticket anyone for...Thats what I meant by that comment. And yes, if that girl has ANY sense, she will flash back to being punched in her face, next time she thinks she can just go grabbing on officers.

You cant get racism to disappear if you keep including it in everything. This was simply, a disrespectful kid that got put in her place. Nothing more...The color of skin played no part in this whatsoever. So why is everyone (not just you guys) bringing race into a situation that has nothing to do with race?

Has anyone noticed that the black race is the only one that think they are owed something? There is a reason most of the poorest countries in the world are inhabited by black people. You dont see asians and jews crying for affirmative action....because they are too busy going to college and working for what they want in life, instead of just sitting on their asses collecting welfare and bitching about how the white man is keeping them down. For fuck's sake, there is a black president...That should be a sign that anything is possible if you WORK for it.
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What the officer did is completely justified. The girl in the pink shirt assaulted him and he reacted with appropriate force, per the training matrix. It would seem he properly remembered that part of his police training. He needs to spend a few weeks of remedial training on the mats in DT, though; he should have had no trouble putting girl #1 in cuffs in the first place.

As for shooting or even unholstering his pistol -- there was no point in that video where the matrix escalated to the point of using deadly force.
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As for shooting or even unholstering his pistol -- there was no point in that video where the matrix escalated to the point of using deadly force.
I would agree. If the crowd heckling had began to ALL become a physical threat, then maybe. Either way, everyone here would agree using his weapon would be a last resort.

As for DT and such, he probably should go do a refresher LOL. His accent seems to sound as if he's from New Orleans as well. Not that it matters. Just an observation.

And as far as Race is concerned, in the eyes of Law Enforcement, I am sure, it had nothing to do with that. BUT, look at the link of the longer video I posted and you'll see that the NAACP did weigh in, in favor of the two girls of course, and made their statement about the whole thing. Like I said, we don't have to bring skin pigmentation into it, that group already did. Hopefully, the investigation and ruleing will go favorably for that Officer and he won't be removed from the Department. But, unfourtunately, I predict the opposite will be true. Likely he won't be found criminal, but I'll bet he loses his job so SPD can save face.
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Old 06-16-2010, 06:14 AM
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And as for the jaywalking law, there's a reason they put that there. Jaywalking can cause accidents, hold up traffic, and get people killed. So Lawmakers decided to make it illegal, and placed stoplights, crosswalks, and other safety measures to prevent that.

Sure, it's low priority. Sure, most times it's looked at as a bullshit ticket. So what, it's still a Law, and I maintain that if an Officer is going to enforce that law for one person, he should do it for all. Who knows, maybe it was a really slow day and he was looking for something to do? The arrest had nothing to do with jaywalking btw. It had to do with being beligerant and non compliant, and resistance.
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