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Old 06-30-2012, 04:51 PM
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Default Toed out negative camber

I just finished lowering my 93 in the front looks sick ass fuck but my steering is all messed up. like my title says I'm toed out which causes my tires to bulge in and camber is negative. Will an alignment fix this please any info will be appreciated.

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Old 06-30-2012, 04:58 PM
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Default Re: Toed out negative camber

YOu may need camber bushings. The toe is expected, lowering pushes the wheels out just like lifting sucks them in.

Camber Bushings

You should install the camber bushings yourself. A shop will rape you on install.

*DONT LET AN ALIGNMENT SHOP NOT ADJUST THE CAMBER, NOR CHARGE YOU EXTRA*
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Old 06-30-2012, 05:48 PM
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I have these

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These are 4* eccentric camber bushings
Sorry for the shitty picture but how do I position them?
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:07 PM
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Default Re: Toed out negative camber

those should do the trick
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by 93 4x4
those should do the trick
Do I just put them slap them on or is there a certain way they go?
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Old 06-30-2012, 06:23 PM
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Those are probably to much. Are they the dual adjustment ones...? You want to stay as small as possible. The bigger bushings will also effect caster.

I would get ones with like 2* You'll want to put them in and turn them so the thickest part is facing the motor.

The issue with the extreme bushings is it puts a shit load of stress on the ball joint, plus, throws the caster out which can cause big problems with stability and steering.

This one Bushing. You want to keep the ball joint straight if all possible. The larger degree bushings actually c0ck the ball joint shaft at angles, which is a problem.
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Old 06-30-2012, 07:33 PM
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This is what I'm dealing with camber wise.

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You still think I need 2* ?
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Old 06-30-2012, 08:43 PM
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yeah. After I lifted my truck it was about the same as yours. This is why I always say 6" springs with 4" brackets. If I had that or 8" springs with 6" brackets I would have been real close.

You will be surprised at how much the tire will come out with 2*

How is the stock bushing? Some are just a hole in the center, while others come stock with an adjustable.

On my dads 2wd there was a notch that had to be ground flush to adjust the bushing
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Old 07-02-2012, 05:57 PM
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Default Re: Toed out negative camber

I'd get your toe fixed but run some negative camber. Your tires won't wear too much worse than normal, and your stability/handling will be improved.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:25 AM
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Originally Posted by johnspalding4
I'd get your toe fixed but run some negative camber. Your tires won't wear too much worse than normal, and your stability/handling will be improved.
That's pretty much how I sit now
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:10 PM
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How low did you wind up going in the front and rear? I also am dealing with the same issue, I just haven't had time to get the adjustable bushings.
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:17 PM
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Default Re: Toed out negative camber

guys, check your current bushing to see if they are camed. I have only seen one 2wd that had a center bore in the stock bushing. All the others had an offset bushing like the 4wd trucks. You may be able to just turn the stock one....?
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Repair broken dome light tabs
VIDEO OHC Install
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Old 07-03-2012, 12:36 PM
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Originally Posted by pooleo
guys, check your current bushing to see if they are camed. I have only seen one 2wd that had a center bore in the stock bushing. All the others had an offset bushing like the 4wd trucks. You may be able to just turn the stock one....?
Mine have a little tab on them but got my toe in done by a mechanic and the camber has a slight negative to it which is good for handling purposes so I'm being told!!!
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