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Old 04-12-2011, 11:39 AM
Bighomedog11 Bighomedog11 is offline
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Default Re: Grinding Sound when slowing down

Well could that be the problem? Because the bolt thats in the leaf spring is off-center now. And i did not drill a hole in the spring plate. So i need to drill a hole in the spring plate so the bolt can be in place.
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Old 04-12-2011, 11:40 AM
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Pics please
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Old 04-12-2011, 02:40 PM
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PICS before drilling


SOME leaf spring perches have multiple holes to allow for slight changes in pinion angle.
If your spring perches only have one hole, the center pin of the leaf pack must go through there or you risk the pack sliding sideways'pivoting around the center pin.

It will trash your u-joints, then driveshaft if you don't fix it.

Correctly setting the pinion angle means grinding off the spring perches and welding new ones on in the correct angle. It is not 0*, it should have 1-2* of offset to allow for the upward motion of the pinion under load. Use an angle finder to see what angle your pinion/ driveshaft/ tcase or trany output are at to see what angle your u-joints are currntly experiencing.

I recently had to have the perches cut/welded on a Dana 60 in a Jeep: took a friend about an hr with a nice torch and a good welder to get it set right.
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Old 04-12-2011, 09:15 PM
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My leaf springs only have 1 bolt going threw it.
So i have to do all that to install a shim. Because i dont have a welder.
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Old 04-14-2011, 10:35 AM
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Here some pixs of my rear axle. Will just Pinion Shims work? Or do i need to get a Carrier bearing shim kit also?


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Old 04-14-2011, 04:12 PM
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Holy friggin' pinion angle, Batman!

Mine isn't nearly that bad. Which way did you put the holes on the flip kit? Did you put the hole towards the front of the truck or the back?

Pics of my carrier bearing shims:


My carrier bearing angle was bad when I lowered and these helped out a bunch. There was areally bad pulsation in 3rd and 4th gear when accellerating. Now it's close to gone.
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Old 04-14-2011, 04:20 PM
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I put the holes toward the front of the truck.

Do you think Pinion Shims will fix this or do i need to get a Carrier bearing kit or both?
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Old 04-14-2011, 08:49 PM
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Look down the driveshaft from the rear of the truck and if it looks like it's making a v-shape into the carrier bearing, you'll need shims. The number of shims will depend on how much you are lowered.
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Old 04-14-2011, 09:48 PM
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Look down the driveshaft from the rear of the truck and if it looks like it's making a v-shape into the carrier bearing, you'll need shims. The number of shims will depend on how much you are lowered.
Agreed

That can probably be shimmed.

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Use it and figure out the angle of the driveshaft, the angle of the pinion, and subtract the driveshaft from the pinion. Take that number and divide by the amount in degrees each shim accounts for. Take that number and add that number of shims accordingly.

If that number is big and means you need a scary number of shims, then you should really consider having a pro cut/weld the perches to the correct angle.
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Old 04-15-2011, 12:30 AM
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Dang i wasnt trying to buy a whole lot of stuff. I already spent enough on doing this.

I think a 6degree shim will fix it? A lot of people say its way off so i am thinking a 6 degree

Do you think just the shim kit will fix it? Or do i need to get a Carrier bearing kit also?
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Old 04-15-2011, 06:37 PM
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I say carrier bearing too.

When my driveshaft went it shattereed the back of the tcase, took out a shock and the muffler on it's way out to the freeway below me. Spend the $$ now I promise
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:16 PM
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Yeah i am going to order a Carrier Bearing kit and a 6 degree shim.. Hopefully this fixes my problem
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Default Re: Grinding Sound when slowing down

Make sure the flip kit is installed correctly, with the extended cab you might want to get the DJM carrier bearring shim. (I need to add it to my site now that i think about it) The angle of the driveshaft going into the rearend should be opposite of the angle coming out of the transmission when you install pinion shims.
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Old 04-15-2011, 11:12 PM
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Make sure the flip kit is installed correctly, with the extended cab you might want to get the DJM carrier bearring shim. (I need to add it to my site now that i think about it) The angle of the driveshaft going into the rearend should be opposite of the angle coming out of the transmission when you install pinion shims.
So do you think i will need both a carrier bearing shim and pinion shims?
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Old 04-28-2011, 04:38 PM
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I fixed my problem..
I bought a Carrier Bearing shim kit and 6 degree Pinion Shims and that fix it. I dont here no more grinding now and rides like it was new just need new front shocks
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