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Old 05-06-2011, 04:36 AM
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Default Re: I'm lowering and 05 edge and I have a few questions

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I think the chances of wiping out on gravel in a jacked up edge are higher than a lowered edge. Even going the speed limit if you hit a pot hole or dodge some deer or something you will slide around pretty easily in an edge. We know some people that had an new edge and flipped it on gravel with only 6000 km on it.

Its probably pointless but accidents happen and I do drive on gravel alot.
And I know your wrong but to each his own we gave you advice and your dead set on being wrong. Lower it wipe out your inner fenderwell and break some other parts. The trucks are designed to travel at a reasonable speed around corners. Gravel is no different than snow for traction and oddly enough not to many flipping stock edges in the snow. Maybe your friend didn't know how to drive.
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Old 05-06-2011, 06:00 AM
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:36 PM
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so i have a question... is it worth removing the blocks and the adjuster bolts? i am new at this and would like to do it.. just looking for some advice.
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Old 09-17-2011, 03:41 PM
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my advice: get a different ranger. its stupid to lower an edge and its harder to lower torsion bar set ups plus they do not go as low
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my advice: get a different ranger. its stupid to lower an edge and its harder to lower torsion bar set ups plus they do not go as low
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Old 07-06-2013, 04:16 PM
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Default Re: I'm lowering and 05 edge and I have a few questions

A shame no one answered the OP's actual question. Never said he intended to lower the truck, just soften the ride up a bit. Anyone here ever encounter a washboard uphill? One good reason for a bit softer suspension. The guy asks a legitimate question NEVER saying his intention was to lower the truck. Just a better ride... and yes I do realize I stated that twice. Maybe someone might actually answer the question.

I came on this thread because I would like to know the effects of removing one of the two springs in the three leaf pack on my Splash to get a bit softer ride as well and was doing searches. My old S10 had a better ride. I figured air shocks would take care of an overload when hauling anything of any weight. The question was if one of the two leaves able to be removed was removed what would be the outcome. If anyone had done this and known. I did read about it as a possible modification on Andy's Auto
Sports and figured maybe someone in this forum had done this.

Will I get an answer? After all, no one should lose any sleep over a Splash being lowered or in search of a softer ride. Heck, it's the wimp Ranger in comparison to the rest now, isn't it.

By the way, yes I realized this was an old thread. But the question is the same.
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Old 07-09-2013, 03:46 PM
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Default Re: I'm lowering and 05 edge and I have a few questions

Torsion bars ride like crap from my experience with a few vehicles, cranking the adjuster bolts down is not going to change the spring rate, it simply rotates the control arm which lowers the truck. With that said I also sell upper and lower drop control arms for the Edge trucks/ Explorer that can lower them up to 6" in the front :-) If you want to change the spring rate your going to need to look into ditching the torsion bars and installing some coil overs.
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Old 07-10-2013, 03:43 AM
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Now that is information of value.

For discussion's sake, the question is, from what I know of it over some years around Mopars back in the early 70s, the spring rate (force required to move the suspension 1") can not be altered, but the preloading can. If the bars are cranked up much it can preload the torsion bar making it require more force to compress them. That was a common way to "jack up" the front end of 60s-70s Plymouths, Dodges, and Chryslers. Common practice by drag racers.

I realize the vehicle weight will compress the torsion bar, but we found if the torsion bars on the old Plymouths and Dodges (among others) were cranked up a lot the front end rode as if solid mounted. When the bars were cranked back for less preload it could be dialed back to allow more suspension movement up and down. Clearly the front end would settle down to a point where the torsion bar was at the same load point, but more movement went into settling there. That movement could soften the ride through more up/down movement as bumps are encountered. Kind of like LTS as used by off roaders. The wheel can move up and down over a wider range in an easier fashion over rougher road surfaces.

Of course that movement would allow more body roll depending on shocks and all. It isn't the trick for driving like one is on Pike's Peak, but it might be good for the more casual driver wanting a better general drive.

I don't know how this would work with the Ford, but I do know an old torsion bar Plymouth could have the bars tightened up, raising the body, and reducing body roll a bit.

Not the same as changing spring rate, but giving more room to work it. Seems to me it would be possible to play a bit with suspension if it was possible to fit a coil-over shock set with a cranked back torsion bar set up. Let a softer rate shock spring work first then the torsion bar comes into play. But since I don't have that kind of set up I have this is all speculation for discussion based on what we experienced on torsion bar suspension from the 70s. I will say it's a shame Ford didn't make it as simple to adjust as Chrysler did - a small bolt on the lower arm cranked the front end up. Sagged too much crank it back up.

Just some thoughts.
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