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Old 09-06-2010, 09:32 PM
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ok, so i finally have almost all of my parts to make the truck function on its own (without garage air) just need a compressor. I have a set of 4 valves. But they are parker valves (brass). havent heard much about parker valves on baggers. Good enough to make it function?
I am also not sure how to plumb the system. I am just going for front and rear control. no side to side.
If anyone has pics of their setup, post them, as well as any info.
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Old 09-23-2010, 08:38 AM
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I have my front bagged. A I have 4 valves 2 1/2inch fills and 2 3/8 dumps. Took the 1/2inch line frrom valves to bags ran threw the frame. Check out. Www. Suicidedoors.com I think the got a how to section
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Old 09-26-2010, 07:58 PM
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Old 09-27-2010, 10:17 AM
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yeah check suicidedoors.com it has all the wireing and plumbing diagrams you would ever need.

I would post a pic of mine but my truck got totalled, so I'm driveing a non ranger mini truck currently, its sitting FBSS tho...
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Old 09-28-2010, 01:41 PM
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my ranger was bagged with 8 sirai brass valves i bought used for $250 with a compressor, tank and wiring it worked good im in the process of bagging another ranger, cause i traded my old ranger for a first gen ranger with a v8
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Old 09-30-2010, 06:31 PM
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I wanna see some pics of people with bags when the truck is all the way down and all the way up. Starting my homework now to put bags on mine next spring.
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Old 10-05-2010, 11:32 AM
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a 4 valve setup will give you front back control. an 8 valve setup sometimes referred to a fbss is not really the correct term. The 8 valve setup is individual corner control which is essential for proper handling. With only FB you will have air tansfer when cornering and "over roll" the truck in turns. The most popular setup I sell is 3/8" valves and 1/2" lines. This maximizes the air flow through all of the inner orifaces of the valves air line and fittings. With 1/2" valves you will want 5/8" air line but this setup is fast and will hop the truck. I have hopped a couple truck son the 3/8 valve 1/2" line setup a couple inches, It just depends on the setup and motor size. Also keep in mind any 90Degree swivel fittings you use will slow down the air system, I usually use them on the rear of the truck.

I always tell everybody it is cheaper to slow down the speed of your air system with flow and dump controls vs trying to speed it up buying larger parts.

As for Parker they make a great product, nothing wrong with them. Most people just stay away from them because they are more expensive. i personally run SMC valves on my trucks and mostly sell those because they are a great valve and have a great price. If you need any specific one on one help with your setup please feel free to email me brian@illusivefabrications.com.
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Old 10-06-2010, 07:56 AM
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a 4 valve setup will give you front back control. an 8 valve setup sometimes referred to a fbss is not really the correct term. The 8 valve setup is individual corner control which is essential for proper handling. With only FB you will have air tansfer when cornering and "over roll" the truck in turns. The most popular setup I sell is 3/8" valves and 1/2" lines. This maximizes the air flow through all of the inner orifaces of the valves air line and fittings. With 1/2" valves you will want 5/8" air line but this setup is fast and will hop the truck. I have hopped a couple truck son the 3/8 valve 1/2" line setup a couple inches, It just depends on the setup and motor size. Also keep in mind any 90Degree swivel fittings you use will slow down the air system, I usually use them on the rear of the truck.

I always tell everybody it is cheaper to slow down the speed of your air system with flow and dump controls vs trying to speed it up buying larger parts.

As for Parker they make a great product, nothing wrong with them. Most people just stay away from them because they are more expensive. i personally run SMC valves on my trucks and mostly sell those because they are a great valve and have a great price. If you need any specific one on one help with your setup please feel free to email me brian@illusivefabrications.com.
Why do you NEED 5/8 line? I've bagged several trucks and plumbed countless and have never found a need for larger line. The "air flow" will only flow as fast as the smallest orifice will allow it to. so 1/2" valves and 5/8" lines will allow just as much air flow as if you were running 1/2" lines. What makes the difference is air pressure.

I usually always run 1/2" line if I'm using 3/8" valves or 1/2" valves, the reason I say this is because 1/2" line is the most common and it's a very common practice to us 1/2" for lift and 3/8" dumps. Again, 1/2" line on 3/8" valves will not make a difference in speed.

If you are wanting just a regular every day driver and not looking to go side to side, 3 wheel or anything crazy you should run 6 valves.. 2 in the back, 1/2" lift 3/8" dump and 4 up front 1/2" lift and 3/8" dump.

The reason for the different size in valves will keep the lift and dump speeds around the same, the bigger valves help with lifting the weight of the vehicle quicker and the smaller valves help with lowering a little slower (or you could get reducers on bigger valves). Another plus size of smaller valves or running reducers is you lower the risk of breaking things (like motor mounts) when slamming the truck on the ground.

Hope this helps.
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Old 11-01-2010, 11:00 AM
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Running the next size air line will maximize the flow through the valves and fittings. 1/2" valves and 1/2" lines are a waste of money on the larger valves. It will flow almost the same as 3/8" valves and 1/2" lines. The inside of the 1/2" line is 3/8" which is the orifice size of the 3/8" valve.

If you were to run 3/8" valves and 1/2" line and then drop the line size to 3/8" line you will notice a decrease in speed since the 3/8" line restricts the flow of the 3/8" valve because the inside of the 3/8" line is actually 1/4". But you also need to figure in the valves CFM rating as well from the way the internals are designed.

It's always cheaper to slow down your system than it is to speed it up.

8 valves has nothing to do with side to side or 3 wheeling it has to do with propper vehicle handling, preventing air transfer and "overrolling" of the vehicle.
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Old 11-12-2010, 11:29 AM
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I used 3/8 valves and lines. I've had to slow down the dumps and the truck fills almost too fast for my likeing. I can't imagine running bigger line and valves. Lol

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Old 12-19-2010, 01:31 PM
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Old 01-17-2011, 10:52 PM
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12 valve cummins fit real nice

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Old 01-28-2011, 04:34 PM
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