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Old 03-25-2010, 04:26 PM
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Default 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

Be? I am lowering the rig with 3" DJM dream beams in the front flip the rear. I have MOOG adjustable camber kit what should the angles be?
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Old 03-25-2010, 08:10 PM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

I believe the DJM beams don't affect camber.
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Old 03-25-2010, 09:53 PM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

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I believe the DJM beams don't affect camber.
So you dont have a clue? I really need the degrees because I need to use a table of setting install the adj units. nothing short of the actual degrees for both will be of any use
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Old 03-26-2010, 07:55 AM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

You are telling me that no one here has alignment numbers?
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:31 AM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

posted on trs as well

It needs to be calculated on an alignment rack to be properly put back into spec. Alot of times if you have a good alignment before you drop the truck with only 3" dream beams you will only need to adjust the toe but it varies from truck to truck.
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Old 03-26-2010, 08:38 AM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

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posted on trs as well

It needs to be calculated on an alignment rack to be properly put back into spec. Alot of times if you have a good alignment before you drop the truck with only 3" dream beams you will only need to adjust the toe but it varies from truck to truck.
Posted info that does not help there also. I appreciate it but I am installing new adjustable bushings and need it close to stock so I can drive it the 60 miles to the alignment shop. So I need the stock ranger angles to set the new bushing before I put them in.
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Old 03-27-2010, 08:19 PM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

Posted info is going in one ear and out the other.

Beams change the spindle location, thus not rotating the beams on their axis. If there is no rotation, the camber will be unaffected.

At least I hope I'm right, lol.

Slammedonair is telling you that your truck will probably only need an alignment, not camber bushings.

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Old 03-27-2010, 08:50 PM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

bwad is right, dream beams should have very little effect on your camber, drop springs on the other hand FUCK your camber up to the point that you need adjustable camber bushings (ask me how i know). you will need an allignment, but you shouldnt need new cam bushings for beams. but if you so choose to install said bushings, setting them to N on the dial ( mine go from a-z) that will put you at no adjustment, dont ask me wich direction to go to add/ subtract some camber, play with em and find out lol
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Old 03-29-2010, 11:51 AM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

I'm only posting this here so future readers that use the search function find correct information if they read this.

People with air ride will roll there trucks 2" off the ground and as long as their toe is set correctly the camber on tires will not wear out as fast as you think. The toe is what you should be more worried about rather than the camber or even the caster. With the toe being off it it not only will wear down the tires but it will also cause dangerous bumpsteer conditions that could cause you to wreck your truck on the way to the alignment shop. For a close setup use a tape measure and make sure the front and backs of the tires have the same spacing, then you can do the same for the camber.

I'm sorry that I'm on here to help people out and give them safe tech advise and not always book numbers.... like I was trying to say in my previous post you may not even need the adjustable eccentrics and the ones that were in the stock beams may even be the specs you still need. The toe being off will make the camber look alot worse than it really is on an ibeam truck. Good luck with your project.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:16 PM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

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I'm only posting this here so future readers that use the search function find correct information if they read this.

People with air ride will roll there trucks 2" off the ground and as long as their toe is set correctly the camber on tires will not wear out as fast as you think. The toe is what you should be more worried about rather than the camber or even the caster. With the toe being off it it not only will wear down the tires but it will also cause dangerous bumpsteer conditions that could cause you to wreck your truck on the way to the alignment shop. For a close setup use a tape measure and make sure the front and backs of the tires have the same spacing, then you can do the same for the camber.

I'm sorry that I'm on here to help people out and give them safe tech advise and not always book numbers.... like I was trying to say in my previous post you may not even need the adjustable eccentrics and the ones that were in the stock beams may even be the specs you still need. The toe being off will make the camber look alot worse than it really is on an ibeam truck. Good luck with your project.
Thanks for the help, I got the numbers from the shop and the stock ones are close enough to get to town. I did set the toe with a tape as I have always done to all my 4X's every time I came off of a tough trail. Once I am done I will post up a how to with good info and basic specs for close to get to the shop without issue.
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Old 03-29-2010, 12:23 PM
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Default Re: 94 lowered 3/5 with should the camber and caster angles

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Thanks for the help, I got the numbers from the shop and the stock ones are close enough to get to town. I did set the toe with a tape as I have always done to all my 4X's every time I came off of a tough trail. Once I am done I will post up a how to with good info and basic specs for close to get to the shop without issue.
I'm thinking I need to come spend more time at your place lol You have a lot of knowledge that I have not learned yet. Anyways, how far are you from having the drop done?
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Old 03-29-2010, 02:05 PM
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I'm thinking I need to come spend more time at your place lol You have a lot of knowledge that I have not learned yet. Anyways, how far are you from having the drop done?
she is down 3 in the front and 5 in the rear sits dead level. alignment tomorrow



install the valance and work on shell this afternoon
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she is down 3 in the front and 5 in the rear sits dead level. alignment tomorrow



install the valance and work on shell this afternoon
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