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Old 02-17-2010, 03:43 PM
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EDIT: ^^^ agreed, great summary Shane. You have changed my thoughts on the BL slightly haha.. i do still think the susp. is superior tho
I'm wondering whether there's another advantage to the body lift - someone correct me if I'm wrong:

Since you are only lifting the body, you aren't raising the center of mass (aka center of gravity) of the truck as much as you would with the suspension lift, which lifts a greater portion of the truck's mass (engine and frame, right?) Larger tires will then lift everything on top of that, of course, but it seems with a body lift, you're not putting quite as much weight up higher and not making the vehicle quite as top-heavy. I haven't done the math to know whether it's a significant amount or not.
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Old 02-17-2010, 06:02 PM
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I was recently talking to them about the Coil-Over conversion and he said its sketchy to say the least and he doesn't understand how just having coil-overs could change ride quality. He says an UNCRANKED stock torsion bar suspension will be the same as an uncranked coil-over system.

coilovers are smoother because they are better than t-bars. There is a reason coilovers are 500 dollars and new t-bars are 100. T-bars are a cheap suspension
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Old 02-17-2010, 06:22 PM
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coilovers are smoother because they are better than t-bars. There is a reason coilovers are 500 dollars and new t-bars are 100. T-bars are a cheap suspension
thats what i thought too
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:03 PM
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I'm wondering whether there's another advantage to the body lift - someone correct me if I'm wrong:

Since you are only lifting the body, you aren't raising the center of mass (aka center of gravity) of the truck as much as you would with the suspension lift, which lifts a greater portion of the truck's mass (engine and frame, right?) Larger tires will then lift everything on top of that, of course, but it seems with a body lift, you're not putting quite as much weight up higher and not making the vehicle quite as top-heavy. I haven't done the math to know whether it's a significant amount or not.
I forgot about that!!

Yeah...bodylifts only move the CG of the truck up less than an inch(if that!). Suspension lifts move it up approx 75% of the lift height. So on a Superlift, CG is moved up 3".

*this coming from memory from someone whom actaully did the math some years ago.
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Old 02-17-2010, 09:45 PM
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Well general rule of thumb IMO is do the suspension before a body lift cause you dont want it top heavy. Ive got both and ive had no problems at all. I run 35's daily on the highway, around town, and in the woods and my brakes, wheel bearings, and ball joints are all good. If anything, my U-joints are startin to crap out and make a clicking sound. If you wanna do a real severe hick backyard body lift, go to modells, spend 20 bucks and buy a box of hockey pucks. Thats pretty much all it is.
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Old 02-22-2010, 07:50 PM
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I'm wondering whether there's another advantage to the body lift - someone correct me if I'm wrong:

Since you are only lifting the body, you aren't raising the center of mass (aka center of gravity) of the truck as much as you would with the suspension lift, which lifts a greater portion of the truck's mass (engine and frame, right?) Larger tires will then lift everything on top of that, of course, but it seems with a body lift, you're not putting quite as much weight up higher and not making the vehicle quite as top-heavy. I haven't done the math to know whether it's a significant amount or not.

youre right on that, but that also has a disadvantage on the trails. a body lift doesnt gain you any ground clearance other than what you gain from the tires. a suspension lift raises the center of gravity which is going to hurt onroad performance but helps offroad performance. i guess it just depends on what youre going to be using the truck for.

after reading this tread ive been trying to figure out how a body lift would hurt the truck, of course its not going to wear out the suspension other than running bigger tires like has been said a few times here. the only thing i can come up with from an engineering perspective is that the frame itself will not be as strong and you could warp the bed and cab. of course you would have to be doing some serious muddin or crawlin (in which case you would want a suspension lift anyways). the bed and cab stiffen the frame up alot by tying everything together and having the body off the frame could allow the longer body mount bolts flex more. but you would have to be beatin the dog piss out of the truck before it would even barely do anything. and before anybody writes back sayin im an idiot and thats just ridiculous and tells me im wrong, i know that would be a long shot and if you were running the truck hard enough to do that you would tear up the suspension first, i was just tryin to think of a reason why someone would say that a body lift would hurt the truck.
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