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Old 04-12-2011, 09:58 PM
VegasRanger02 VegasRanger02 is offline
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Default 2.0 Coilover's

Im thinking about trying to put a 2.0 Coilover through the coil bucket on my XLT and do a simple shock hoop and custom mounts on the lower arm. I know it can be done cuz Ive seen it, just wonderin what your thoughts on it are?

This way I could adjust the lift probably from 0-3" or so. I plan to also tap the stock spindle and put a heim in there and make a custom A-arm to conect to that heim (also have seen this done before once.. cant find the picture). this seems like the easiest way to get a pretty strong upper joint. To keep the heim from wearing out from dirt I found these awesome heim joint rubber boots that can go over them. Ill gusset things that can use it and put limit straps.

Eventually from there id like to make heim steering and 2.0 bumps and notch the frame and coil bucket to squeeze a little more travel. Eventually I will go to lift spindles when my brand new 31s are old.

I think this could be a promising mid travel set up - ive only seen one ranger like this and he said it handled pretty awesome.
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Old 04-12-2011, 10:06 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 Coilover's

you'd cut so much of your coil bucket out on the top to fit the coilover and 2.5" coil, that you might as well cut the whole thing and put a 2.5 shock in there.

edit: this is my truck. fabtech spindle, upper arm with a uniball, and the spindle is tapped for a huge ass bolt like you were saying

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Old 04-13-2011, 06:25 AM
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I don't understand why you keep changing your mind haha why not just save up for a long travel kit rather than keep dinking with it haha then ud have a solid set up
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Old 04-13-2011, 05:22 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 Coilover's

I dont want a long travel set up (well I do) but I dont plan on having the truck forever so I dont want to invest that much. I just want something cool that I can beat around on from time to time. I like to tinker as well...

Cutting out the entire coil bucket its way to much work and then you have to box the frame in.. Definately not a weekend project.
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Old 04-13-2011, 08:44 PM
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I dont want a long travel set up (well I do) but I dont plan on having the truck forever so I dont want to invest that much. I just want something cool that I can beat around on from time to time. I like to tinker as well...

Cutting out the entire coil bucket its way to much work and then you have to box the frame in.. Definately not a weekend project.
depends on how fast you work. you'll have to cut out a lot to get the coilover to fit and cycle and not hit anything anyways, so you might as well cut it all out imo. take some measurements and see just how much you'll have to cut. i figure a 3" diameter circle for the shock to fit in will hopefully be enough, the spring's inner diameter is 2.5", and the spring is less than 1/4" thick. that doesn't leave much frame material at the top of the coil bucket.
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Old 04-15-2011, 08:35 PM
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This is true. I think Ill just stay with the 2.0 coil over though. I do have another question idk if you can answer it but Im wondering if I can put a spindle from a 4x4 ranger on my lower control arms and just make a upper that will work with it? I want the stronger snouts and larger bearings. I can just weld a plate over the big hole in the spindle for the CV.

I know most long travel kits use those dana 35 snouts and bearings. So would I just need the spindle, and bearings? Do I need a whole hub?
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Old 04-15-2011, 09:01 PM
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This is true. I think Ill just stay with the 2.0 coil over though. I do have another question idk if you can answer it but Im wondering if I can put a spindle from a 4x4 ranger on my lower control arms and just make a upper that will work with it? I want the stronger snouts and larger bearings. I can just weld a plate over the big hole in the spindle for the CV.

I know most long travel kits use those dana 35 snouts and bearings. So would I just need the spindle, and bearings? Do I need a whole hub?
You want to make your truck as strong as possible, yet the parts you are working with are not weak. Stock 2wd spindles are just fine especially if you are only running 31's. IF you get up to 35's and started racing I"d say to upgrade. Also, there is no point to running a 2.0 coilover in the stock coilbucket, either cut it out and run 2.5 coilovers or keep the stock coil and run a 2.0x8" shock mounted through the coil bucket. IF you want more lift, get longer coils or just go with the lift spindles. Also, what kind of driving do you want to do? The stock upper ball joints are plenty strong for what you will probably be doing with this truck. IF you want a better ride and better peformance, go with the 2.0 shocks.
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Old 04-16-2011, 05:05 PM
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I guess I over think things and would like to make the best of what I have lol. I planned on building upper control arms since they are just so expensive to buy or have built, but I just found a great deal on some fabtech control arms brand new. Now that I finally found a good deal, I will just stick to a lift coil and probably run a bilstein 5100 (the one camburg uses in the 5.5- not the one for a ranger) and if it doesnt satisfy me- I will eventually try out the 2.0 upgrade and a air bump.

I also plan on putting Moog ball joints in the lower and new bushings in the lower along with Daystar EVS foam bumps on the shock shaft and some poly bumps on lower arm in stock location. I will also make sure to get limit straps - just need to find out what is a good length. Additionally Id like to gusset the upper control arm mounts.. and plate the lower arm just because it looks tight and has some benefit lol. Eventually Id like heim steering or camburgs upgrade.

I really am just looking for something I can have fun with and not worry. I am not trying to go take whoops at 60 or huck my truck 30 ft, I am not even trying to get it off the ground. I just want to be able to take dirt at decent speeds and crash dips and gutters in the streets with out slowing down lol.
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Old 04-16-2011, 07:28 PM
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Default Re: 2.0 Coilover's

sounds like what i did with my truck for awhile. i had the upper arm in the picture, some used coils from the camburg 5.5 kit, and the bilstein 5100s from their kit as well paired with a 3" fabtech lift spindle.

to be honest, for the price, you'd probably like the bolt in fox 2.0's that places like poly performance or offroad warehouse sell. mine were around 130 each, but they're fully rebuildable and revalvable. MUCH better ride than the bilsteins offered, and the fact that i can take them apart and work on them means that i can make my suspension work to my needs a lot better, as well as make sure i can get my money's worth out of these shocks.

i am running a 10" strap on my truck, the tab is about half way up the frame, and i just drilled a hole on my lower arm and ran a bolt thru it.


eventually (hopefully sooner than predicted), i'm going to do the 2.0 upgrade like Alon talked about. I tried to see if a 2.5 would fit in there with the stock coil bucket and coils, but there's just no way.
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Old 04-17-2011, 02:42 AM
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Ya I contemplated the 2.5 in the coil as well but a 2.0 will almost hit the coil at full droop. Thanks for the info on the limit strap- thats what I needed. Ive seen these images on dezert rangers, its pretty sweet. Maybe you would like to sell me your foxes and you can get the 2.0 resi's? I just feel like $130 is steep when I can get a FOA 2.0 resi for $140, Id just havent seen good pics of how they attach the lower eye of the shock ( i dont want to buy over priced tabs from camburg)

In that picture is it at ride height? It feels like that strap is almost taught and there isnt much droop from their?

What are the chances I can grind off the bump stop striking plate (that metal bulge above the bumpstop) to get more up travel - that is assuming the shock more travel in it..

I also plan to run shock shaft bump stops (the daystar ones, black or red, which ever is softer) just for piece of mind.

I feel like bilstein 5100s in front and 5150s out back will be good, but if mounting the 2.0 isnt to hard.. i want to go that route.
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