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Old 05-30-2009, 10:14 AM
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Then you need a new girl! If she used her imagination, she would start to like that rough ride! LOL
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oh no, she loves a rough ride, she just dont like it on the road.
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Old 05-31-2009, 11:09 AM
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hahaha well how high is yours lifted? especially as your signature says its a SAS'd? what axle did ya use?
Well right now with 35s it's sittin 15" taller then my girlfriend's stepdad's 04 XLT. When I can afford the 39s I'm lookin at it'll be sittin at 17" over stock. But 3" of that is body so technically I've got a foot of suspension lift with these tires. If I had the stock 29s on, it'd technically have 9" of lift.

Seems like a shit ton of lift but with the full width HP D44 and 9", 15" wide meats, and wheels with some gnarley awesome offset and back spacing, I'm also sitting a total of 15" WIDER.

I stretched the wheel base 3" in the front and 3" in the rear. The truck is incredibly stable for it's height and soft suspension. Shitty shocks and no sway bars even for the road.

I'm nettin about 19" of wheel travel in the front and 21" in the rear.
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Old 05-31-2009, 01:32 PM
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LBF, your truck is frickin sick. If I had the enginuity to do something like that, I would. I also live in Europe right now and trucks of any magnitude are very very rare, absolutely sucks over here!!!!
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LBF, your truck is frickin sick. If I had the enginuity to do something like that, I would. I also live in Europe right now and trucks of any magnitude are very very rare, absolutely sucks over here!!!!
Eric, tushay my brotha!!
Any one can do anything. I'm 19. I'm a public school C student who drinks a lot. I couldn't afford to go to Denver Auto and Diesel. I knew jack shit about this stuff going into it. I know much more coming out on the other side. Put one tons under your rig and drive over europe folk all day for me.
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Old 06-01-2009, 01:06 AM
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Any one can do anything. I'm 19. I'm a public school C student who drinks a lot. I couldn't afford to go to Denver Auto and Diesel. I knew jack shit about this stuff going into it. I know much more coming out on the other side. Put one tons under your rig and drive over europe folk all day for me.
hahaha holy shit man, you really did A LOT! Have ya ever been hassled by the cops? I mean i've only got a 4" lift with 31" tires and i've already had a cop get after me about not having effin mud flaps on teh back!!!!

but i'm looking at doing a SAS this december or toying with a 8" SJ lift

But you sound like me, the only way i learn "how to" is to do it... cause i ended up tearing my front axle down to the knuckle for some ball joints(didn't wanna spend 150 getting it done) so its up on jacks in the air. but now i know how to do it, just takes me longer than the guy who would've done it for me haha. What rig did ya pull the axle out of?
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Old 06-01-2009, 02:21 PM
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I hear about what you are saying, but when you have a family to support and live a descent distance from work and your wife takes care of the kids while I am at work, you need 2 vehicles. I could do some work once I get my dune buggy working which is where I was learning alot of tearing down to the frame and fixing up until I got orders to come to Europe and couldn't bring it with.
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sniper what branch of military are ya in? I'm assuming thats why you're in europe... do ya like the military?
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waiting for: dual steering stabilizer, put on 3" body lift(in my room), dual shock setup, electric fan, possible SAS with a waggy D44
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Old 06-02-2009, 08:24 AM
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hahaha holy shit man, you really did A LOT! Have ya ever been hassled by the cops? I mean i've only got a 4" lift with 31" tires and i've already had a cop get after me about not having effin mud flaps on teh back!!!!

but i'm looking at doing a SAS this december or toying with a 8" SJ lift

But you sound like me, the only way i learn "how to" is to do it... cause i ended up tearing my front axle down to the knuckle for some ball joints(didn't wanna spend 150 getting it done) so its up on jacks in the air. but now i know how to do it, just takes me longer than the guy who would've done it for me haha. What rig did ya pull the axle out of?
Don't even toy with an 8". Your steering will be fubared and you'll spend more time getting it to track straight then it would take to swap a real axle in. Not to mention the camber issues. And none of the parts will help a SAS in the long run. Except maybe the drop pitman arm. You're lucky you've got TTB cause you've already got coil buckets and a power steering box on the chassis.

I ran leafs on a HP Dana44 from a 79 Bronco with a 400m. Got the 9" rear from the bronc too. My axle was set up for early ford radius arms. Long ass mofos. The wedges on the axle tube were cast and couldn't be cut with out re-tubing the entire axle. That made welding leaf spring perches a hassle! In heindseight I should have gone with coils. That would have made steering much much much easier. Now I've got odd ass chevy 8 lug knuckles and full size 5 lug ford rear.

Early bronco D44s are about the same width as your 8.8" along with Jeep Wagoneer D44s, plus they have "flat top" knuckles, easy for high steer.

I know you can get a HP44 from a bronco, bolt on rad arm drop brackets, and then rotate the coil perch on the axle (two bolts run through off set holes in the coil seat and then into the radius arm C's) and it'll line up with your current coil buckets give or take a half inch on either side. Then it's fabbing a drag link and running brake lines. I should have bought a pre 98 ranger...


And so far I've gotten no shit from the cops with: no doors, no muffler, no side mirrors, no mud flaps, no fender flares, fogged tail lights, and my tires stick out about 6" each side. And a horribly cracked windshield with more mud on the inside then the out side. Gotta love Colorado
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Old 06-02-2009, 04:26 PM
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Don't even toy with an 8". Your steering will be fubared and you'll spend more time getting it to track straight then it would take to swap a real axle in. Not to mention the camber issues. And none of the parts will help a SAS in the long run. Except maybe the drop pitman arm. You're lucky you've got TTB cause you've already got coil buckets and a power steering box on the chassis.

I ran leafs on a HP Dana44 from a 79 Bronco with a 400m. Got the 9" rear from the bronc too. My axle was set up for early ford radius arms. Long ass mofos. The wedges on the axle tube were cast and couldn't be cut with out re-tubing the entire axle. That made welding leaf spring perches a hassle! In heindseight I should have gone with coils. That would have made steering much much much easier. Now I've got odd ass chevy 8 lug knuckles and full size 5 lug ford rear.

Early bronco D44s are about the same width as your 8.8" along with Jeep Wagoneer D44s, plus they have "flat top" knuckles, easy for high steer.

I know you can get a HP44 from a bronco, bolt on rad arm drop brackets, and then rotate the coil perch on the axle (two bolts run through off set holes in the coil seat and then into the radius arm C's) and it'll line up with your current coil buckets give or take a half inch on either side. Then it's fabbing a drag link and running brake lines. I should have bought a pre 98 ranger...


And so far I've gotten no shit from the cops with: no doors, no muffler, no side mirrors, no mud flaps, no fender flares, fogged tail lights, and my tires stick out about 6" each side. And a horribly cracked windshield with more mud on the inside then the out side. Gotta love Colorado
oh i know about the EB d44's, and the jeep wagoneer... i've just been trying to find an alternative cause the EB D44 are expensive as hell! and ya can't find any up here(not even a housing!) so i'd have to order it and get it shipped here... i've already asked about one, and to get one(already re-built, powdercoated, gears, and posi-track, converted to disc brakes AND shipping) its like $2200! thats too steep for me, but maybe i'll have to wait, but i can pick up some fender flares, dunno how wide they would cover though :/ i think i'm gonna hunt down a set of axles from an early Ford(70's) like a 150/250 and just put those under. but the EB D44 still have D35 outers, so i'd have to take it off at the knuckle and redo everthing out, which is no big deal, but i've got an explorer axle i'm putting under my truck right now. If i make enough money this summer i'll do the EB D44, but i've still gotta pay for school. but i'd still have to put new coil buckets on if i went with that axle cause the EB coil springs are bigger but i can still get like 8" of lift with the 5.5" lift coils

I've seen a couple wagoneers for sale around here... the whole rig for pretty cheap so maybe i'll just buy it and pull the axles out and swap them in. gotta get another rig before i start diving into too much though cause i wanna get a lot of it powdercoated before it goes in, and i've still gotta be able to get to work while my truck is in the air haha
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waiting for: dual steering stabilizer, put on 3" body lift(in my room), dual shock setup, electric fan, possible SAS with a waggy D44
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Old 06-03-2009, 09:30 AM
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Stock ranger coils are about the same size as full size ford and jeep coils. I used to have my current axles under a jeep with full size bronco coil buckets and they sat in there just fine. I used 8" jeep coils from some off brand and they were soft and flexy as hell. We could get the thing rockin with very little effort.

If you're lookin at the 8lug dana 44 from the 70's they're usually drum brake fronts. That can easily be changed out by using a spindle, wheel bearings, nuts, hubs, knuckles, and caliper backing plates from a 80's 8 lug chevy. The ford style held the caliper on with a wedge and a bolt to the knuckle. The chevys ran a plate that gets bolted up before the spindle that holds the caliper on seperate from the knuckle. You'd also get flat top knuckles in the process. That'd give you an 8 lug front and the need for a sterling or 14bolt or 60 rear! You could get lug adaptors but a sterling rear would just be plain out bad ass

A waggy 44 would be wicked easy cause you'd just have to grind the leaf perches and weld on new seats. Those can be purchased or fabbed with ease. But then you'd need a matching rear, so an AMC20 wouldn't be a bad bet or a corporate 12 bolt. The 20s can be easily modifyed to be as strong as a 60 for cheap.

You could get a full size chevy D44 (1/2 or 3/4 ton) and swap the axle tubes to make it a driverside drop.

You could weld Dana 60 outter C's on a 14 bolt and run 14bolt internals with 60 knuckles and spindles and hubs. That'd be stout. Hell of a rock catcher though.

You could weld dana 44 outter C's on a ford 8.8" and run 44 knuckles spindles and hubs.

You could convert a ford 9" into a front by ordering C's and running 44 or 60 knuckles up front. Hell of a lot of ground clearence and third members are always nice.
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Stock ranger coils are about the same size as full size ford and jeep coils. I used to have my current axles under a jeep with full size bronco coil buckets and they sat in there just fine. I used 8" jeep coils from some off brand and they were soft and flexy as hell. We could get the thing rockin with very little effort.

If you're lookin at the 8lug dana 44 from the 70's they're usually drum brake fronts. That can easily be changed out by using a spindle, wheel bearings, nuts, hubs, knuckles, and caliper backing plates from a 80's 8 lug chevy. The ford style held the caliper on with a wedge and a bolt to the knuckle. The chevys ran a plate that gets bolted up before the spindle that holds the caliper on seperate from the knuckle. You'd also get flat top knuckles in the process. That'd give you an 8 lug front and the need for a sterling or 14bolt or 60 rear! You could get lug adaptors but a sterling rear would just be plain out bad ass

A waggy 44 would be wicked easy cause you'd just have to grind the leaf perches and weld on new seats. Those can be purchased or fabbed with ease. But then you'd need a matching rear, so an AMC20 wouldn't be a bad bet or a corporate 12 bolt. The 20s can be easily modifyed to be as strong as a 60 for cheap.

You could get a full size chevy D44 (1/2 or 3/4 ton) and swap the axle tubes to make it a driverside drop.

You could weld Dana 60 outter C's on a 14 bolt and run 14bolt internals with 60 knuckles and spindles and hubs. That'd be stout. Hell of a rock catcher though.

You could weld dana 44 outter C's on a ford 8.8" and run 44 knuckles spindles and hubs.

You could convert a ford 9" into a front by ordering C's and running 44 or 60 knuckles up front. Hell of a lot of ground clearence and third members are always nice.
holy crap man, you know a hell of a lot! I didn't even think about switching the axle tubes on a chevy. I guess i didn't even think it was possible! but i'll prolly just go with a waggy 44, well actually i'll just get a pair of waggy axles and do the front and back at the same time(keep the same bolt pattern!) but this sounds like i'm just gonna go buy another ranger and start doing axle swaps like nothing else, turn it into my project rig on top of my current ranger haha. how tough is it to swap axle tubes anyways? cause we've got a set of dodge axles(don't know anything about em) but i know they are drum all the way around and prolly need rebuilds, and the front is passenger side drop instead of driver so i'm just curious if you've done that before or not? or should i just take it into a machine shop and have them do it?
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A lot of axles, the tubes are just pressed in. Some are welded. I'm sure you can be creative to figure out a way to pull the tubes once the axle is torn down.

If they're welded it's just like a drive shaft. Grind the welds but don't penetrate the tubes. Then it's a matter of pulling them.... ? I haven't done it yet cause I don't have the need yet.

But this sunday I'm pickin up a set of 1.5ton Dodge Power Wagon axles. Surplus from a WWII 6x6

I'm pretty sure they're pass. drop and the entire housing is one big ass cast piece. SO this is gonna involve cutting and sleaving the tubes to change them, or flipping my T case 180 degrees and building custom exhaust, or building a doubler and aim for pass drop. It's all in the fun! Or maybe running the axle upside down and flipping the knuckles.... hahaha
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haha, have fun with that project! i think i'll stick with getting a driver side drop... just easier to deal with. But once i get the funds i'm gonna do that SAS, and maybe go all the way and put a 4bt cummins in too!

Ya know, i think i'd try just flipping the axle and running it upside down hahaha... seems like IF it'd it work that'd be the easiest to do.
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I am in the Army and can't wait to get outta Europe, there is no place to get parts unless I order them from the states and no place to go 4Xin.
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