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Old 01-04-2016, 11:31 PM
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Default 2005 Edge Ex Cab Lift questions.. HELP NEEDED

I got my nephew his first truck which is a 2005 Edge Extended Cab 2wd 3.0 truck and he wants to lift it. I want to be able to run 285/70-17 which is roughly a 32x11 I think.

What is the most economical way to lift the 2wd truck to clear a 33" tire?

Anyways, what is the best way to lift? I was thinking about doing the 4" spindles but can you add lift springs and torsion keys to the mix to get 6"+ out of the front and 4" block the back? Do I have to replace the shocks when doing this, it only has 80k miles on it? Should we just buy the like this ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maxtrac-1998...25.m3641.l6368 )

We are trying to get the most lift for the money to clear these wheels and tires.


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Old 01-05-2016, 06:18 AM
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Crank the torsion bars for the front, keys are a waste of money (maybe for 6 inches they'll be worth it, but you'll wear out parts left and right)

For the back, don't use blocks, they'll bend your axle (so I've heard) and its better to do an AAL lift
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Old 01-05-2016, 07:25 AM
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I got my nephew his first truck which is a 2005 Edge Extended Cab 2wd 3.0 truck and he wants to lift it. I want to be able to run 285/70-17 which is roughly a 32x11 I think. What is the most economical way to lift the 2wd truck to clear a 33" tire? Anyways, what is the best way to lift? I was thinking about doing the 4" spindles but can you add lift springs and torsion keys to the mix to get 6"+ out of the front and 4" block the back? Do I have to replace the shocks when doing this, it only has 80k miles on it? Should we just buy the like this ( http://www.ebay.com/itm/Maxtrac-1998...25.m3641.l6368 ) We are trying to get the most lift for the money to clear these wheels and tires. Thanks

Don't buy aftermarket lift keys; crank your stock torsion keys.

Yes, doing a 4" spindle and cranking the stock keys will get you around 6" taller than you are now (probably more in the 5-5.5" range)

For the rear, your truck comes with a 2.5" block from the factory. I would not recommend stacking blocks. You can do an AAL and lift shackles, which would be in the 4" range. Depending on how much rake you have now, this may level the truck. If not, you could always take the stock block out and put in a taller one. (With all that being said, the "proper" way to lift the rear that much would be with actual lift springs, but the options described above will work as well)


That edge came from the factory sitting just as high as a 4x4 truck. So, with 5-6" of lift, you should have no problem clearing at least a 33x12.50 tire.

Now, with tires that large, you start to get into gearing issues. What engine/gear ratio does the truck have?



For a reference, your edge would sit somewhat similar to my truck (4x4 with a 4" superlift)
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Old 01-05-2016, 12:57 PM
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What is the most economical way to lift the 2wd truck to clear a 33" tire? Anyways, what is the best way to lift? I was thinking about doing the 4" spindles.
4 inch spindles are definitely the best way to go.

Buy the Maxtrac spindles or the WNP spindles on Amazon.

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Also just a tip, 285/70/17 comes out to 32.7 x 11.22 x 17
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Old 01-05-2016, 04:14 PM
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x2 on the spindles. When shopping around make sure you get ones specifically stated "EDGE/SPORT" since the torsion bar ones are different than the coil spring ones (upper ball joint is bigger on torsion trucks). I'd hate for you to mistakenly pick up the wrong ones. This is the kit I used on my Edge --> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lift-Kit-4-F...xUU-Ac&vxp=mtr

As Tyler stated, the Maxtrac ones are the same thing. Both are a good purchase.

As for torsion keys, I'd pass. While cranking your bars up to 2" (for free, alignment recommended) keeps you within factory specifications. The 3" lift keys take you out of that range and allow you to exceed this even further. You may have issues with your upper A arms and your ball joints will wear prematurely. 4wd guys also have issues with CV axle angles as well but that does not pertain to your truck.

For the rear, as stated above you already have a 2.25" lift block from the factory. The lift shackle in the link above will give you 2" in the rear and in my opinion is easier to install than a AAL (add a leaf). Both options work well and can be used together. No need to go fancy on the AAL, paid $40 for mine new and have not had any problems. Replacing your U bolts is recommended as well (rockauto has them for a good price). With the 4" spindle and 2" shackle the truck will be slightly higher in the front. If that is not the look you are going for, the inclusion of a AAL in the rear brings things back to the factory rake.

A body lift would be a good choice as well. The Performance Accessories kit and the Summit Racing kit are the same thing so either or will work. Installation is not bad, just time consuming. With the help of another member here we had mine on in about 8 hours or so which included a break for lunch. Typically I recommend spindles over a body lift for the sheer fact that spindles with raise the whole truck not just the body.

You mentioned tires for a 17" wheel....I presume the truck has aftermarket wheels on it? Just wanting to make sure since Rangers only came factory with 15's or 16's. As mentioned above, since you are looking at a 32"-33" tire your gear ratio is something that can come in to play. Edge's typically came with 3:73's or 4:10's. My 2wd Edge came with 3:73's and I would think most of the 2wd ones did. Seeing as how you are from FL I presume hills are few and far between. With 33's and 3:73's hills SUCK.

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My truck with 33x10.5's with factory height. No clearance issues but was never driven off road. Spindles were installed the next weekend.



Same 33x10.5's with 4" spindle and 2"shackle.



Again, same 33x10.5's with 4" spindles, 2" shackle, 2" AAL, and 3" body lift.



35x12.5's on 8" wide wheels with 4" spindles, 2" shackle, 2" AAL, and 3" body lift.



35x12.5's on 10" wide wheels with 4" spindles, 2" shackle, 2" AAL, and 3" body lift.



At no time were my torsion bars cranked. For informational purposes, in the last pic the top of my cab is around 6' 4" tall.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: Forgot to list the body lift. Not sure if I have a pic with just spindles, shackles, and AAL.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:00 AM
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Thank you everyone for this input. I am going to order the 4" spindles and the 2" shackles and hope for the best. I really do appreciate it and that's a good looking blue Ranger on them 35's.
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Old 01-06-2016, 12:58 AM
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Always happy to help.

If Steve can whore his 2WD on dirtyfives so can I





Maybe this will help you too. Mine naturally sits a little lower than the Sport/Edge models but this is with 3" coils and a 4" spindle. The spindles also push the front wheels outboard by 2" on either side (+4 track width) so you can clear the suspension components better.
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Old 01-06-2016, 05:27 PM
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Thank you everyone for this input. I am going to order the 4" spindles and the 2" shackles and hope for the best. I really do appreciate it and that's a good looking blue Ranger on them 35's.
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You will be happy with the spindles. What they basically do is lower the snout 3-4" thus raising the front of the truck, kind of like a "wheel mounting lowering kit" if that makes sense. The ride will be pretty much the same as it is now because the suspension components are basically in the exact same location. No new shocks are required because of this. Also, if the ball joints on your truck look like they need to be replaced it is not a bad idea to replace them when you install the spindles since you need to tear the truck down that far anyway. Check out this link for installation information. Different brand spindles but it is the same thing --> How To: 3" Doetsch Spindle Install
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Old 01-06-2016, 09:39 PM
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I bought the WNP kit spindles and shackles. I was reading some comments/reviews on them and several people mentioned I will need a brake line extension, was that the case with yall? Where can I buy one of these at?
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I bought the WNP kit spindles and shackles. I was reading some comments/reviews on them and several people mentioned I will need a brake line extension, was that the case with yall? Where can I buy one of these at?
Nope, don't need them.

However you will have to unhook one of the clips for the speed sensor.
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Old 01-08-2016, 02:44 PM
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Im looking at using the maxtrac 4 inch lift spindes but they say you can only use rims with 3.75 backspacing and i have read that i will need to shave down my a arms a little to maintain steering radius is this true?
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Im looking at using the maxtrac 4 inch lift spindes but they say you can only use rims with 3.75 backspacing
Correct, they're advertised for running no more than 3.75 but I don't see what the issue would be. You can run whatever backspace you want as long as it's no deeper than stock (4.5 backspace)

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i have read that i will need to shave down my a arms a little to maintain steering radius is this true?
Correct, the spindles hit the lip on the lower arm so you will need to grind that down.

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They say it can only be 3.75 or less but youre saying i can run more than that?
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Old 01-08-2016, 03:35 PM
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I think it means no less - aka 3.25, 3.50

Just run a wheel between 3.75 and stock.

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A good amount of aftermarket wheels will be in that range anyways.
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Alright thank you so much for your help. The pictures help a lot, this way I know what I need to do and what I'm getting myself into lol
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