Hi guys, I'm new here and recently retired!

My 2001 Edge 4x4 Supercab 4.0 developed a problem filling the gas tank.
It will only take a minimal flow of gas into the fill tube. I've tried a few different gas stations, all the same, the nozzle shuts off as if the tank is full. My first plan is to buy a new filler neck (NOT easy to find for a Supercab!)
This doesn't look to be bad job to do, but I would - should - also replace both hoses. That looks more difficult. I'm not sure I can get to the tank side of the hoses. ? Removing the bed scares me a bit.
Has anyone gone through what problem I am having?
ANY suggestions and guidance will be greatly appreciated!

Thanks!

Denny D.

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You will have to remove the bed or at least raise it a good foot to access the clamps to remove the hose from the tank.

More than likely the hose is crimped from age.

They are quite PRICEY! Between $300-500 estimated if its a straight side.

I have a source aftermarket, but not for flareside yet if your interested.
BOMK they aren't available from the chain parts houses (NAPA, Advance, O'Reilly, or Auto Zone).

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Hi the information I am providing is for my 2002 your truck being a 2001 should be the same but be warned I suggest going by a manual designated for your truck since I do not know for sure if both years are exactly the same.

I am posting this to show you there is more at work here than you would think.
here is a description of operation for the On-Board Refueling Vapor Recovery (ORVR) Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System


The basic elements forming the ORVR system (Figure 101), (Figure 102) and (Figure 103) operation are as follows when fuel is dispensed:
The fuel filler pipe forms a seal to prevent vapors from escaping the fuel tank, while liquid is entering the fuel tank (liquid in the one inch diameter tube blocks vapors from rushing back up the fuel filler pipe).
A fuel vapor control valve controls the flow of vapors out of the fuel tank (valve closes when liquid level reaches a height associated with the fuel tank usable capacity). This valve accomplishes the following:
Limits the total amount of fuel that can be dispensed into the fuel tank.
Prevents liquid gasoline from exiting the fuel tank when submerged (and also when tipped well beyond a horizontal plane as part of the vehicle roll-over protection in road accidents).
Minimizes vapor flow resistance during anticipated refueling conditions.
Fuel vapor tubing connects the fuel vapor control valve to the EVAP canister. This routes the fuel tank vapors (displaced by the incoming liquid) to the EVAP canister.
A check valve in the bottom of the fuel filler pipe prevents liquid from rushing back up the fuel filler pipe during the liquid flow variations associated with the filler nozzle shut-off.
Between refueling events, the EVAP canister is purged with fresh air so that it may be used again to store vapors accumulated engine soaks or subsequent refueling events. The vapors drawn off of the carbon in the EVAP canister are consumed in the engine.

Refer to Evaporative Emissions System for information on the following Evaporative Emission System components: liquid/vapor fuel discriminator, fuel filler pipe check valve, fill limit valve assembly, fill limit vent valve assembly, fuel filler pipe flapper valve, fuel vapor control valve (fuel tank mounted), ORVR T-connector assembly and EVAP canister.


Here is more information on the Evap system Sorry I cannot post the diagrams.

Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister Purge Valve
The EVAP canister purge valve is controlled by the Powertrain Control Module (PCM) . The EVAP canister purge valve controls the flow of fuel vapors from the EVAP canister to the engine intake manifold during various engine operating modes. The EVAP canister purge valve is normally closed.

Evaporative Emission (EVAP) Canister
Fuel vapors from the fuel tank are stored in the EVAP canister. When the engine is running, the vapors are purged from the EVAP canister for combustion.

Canister Vent Solenoid
During the Evaporative Emission Running Loss System Monitor Test, Evaporative Emissions Repair Verification Drive Cycle, and the Evaporative Emission System Leak Test, the canister vent solenoid is closed to allow either a vacuum to be drawn on the fuel tank or to hold a specified pressure in the system. The canister vent solenoid is normally open.

Fuel Tank Pressure (FTP) Sensor
The fuel tank pressure sensor is used to measure the fuel tank pressure during the Evaporative Emissions monitor test. It is also used to control excessive fuel tank pressures by forcing the EVAP system to purge.

Fuel Vapor Vent (FVV) Valve Assembly
The Fuel Vapor Vent (FVV) valve assembly is mounted on the top of the fuel tank. It is used to control the flow of fuel vapors entering the EVAP system. The head portion of the assembly prevents the fuel tank from overfilling during refueling. The assembly also has a spring float, which prevents liquid fuel from entering the vapor delivery system under severe handling or vehicle rollover conditions. In the upright position, the open bottom of the float will lift and shut off the orifice. Under severe handling conditions, the spring will push the float closed when angles allow liquid fuel to reach the orifice. In a rollover condition, the weight of the open bottom float and spring pressure will close the orifice.

Fuel Filler Pipe Check Valve
The fuel filler pipe check valve is an integral part of the fuel tank or the fuel filler pipe. It is intended to prevent liquid fuel from re-entering the fuel filler pipe from the fuel tank on refueling or rollover conditions.

Fuel Filler Cap
The fuel filler cap is used to prevent fuel spill and to close the EVAP system to the atmosphere.

Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System Monitor
When a fault occurs, the EVAP system monitor is reset to NO and a Diagnostic Trouble Code (DTC) is set in the PCM memory. After the DTC is repaired, the vehicle drive cycle must be completed to reset the monitor in preparation for inspection and maintenance testing.

EVAP Running Loss System Leak Test
To start the testing, conditions of stable purging and vehicle speed must be satisfied. During the first stage, the canister vent solenoid is closed, while the EVAP canister purge valve remains open, applying and building vacuum in the system as indicated by the FTP sensor. This phase checks for major leaks in the EVAP system.

In the second stage, the EVAP canister purge valve closes and the system looks for minimal decay rate in the EVAP vacuum, indicating the absence of any small EVAP system leaks.

The last stage is entered only if stage two of the leak test has failed and checks whether the failed test was due to excess vapor generation. It monitors fuel vapor generation rate. Initially, the canister vent solenoid is opened to equalize EVAP system pressure to the atmosphere. Then the canister vent solenoid is closed, allowing pressure to build if vapor generation is present in sufficient quantity. If the rate of generation is found to be too high, the EVAP running loss system leak test is aborted. If not, then a small leak is diagnosed.

On-Board Refueling Vapor Recovery (ORVR) Evaporative Emission (EVAP) System
The basic elements forming the ORVR system are as follows:
The fuel filler pipe forms a seal to prevent vapors from escaping the fuel tank while liquid is entering the fuel tank. Liquid in the one-inch diameter tube blocks vapors from rushing backup the fuel filler pipe.
The Fill Limiting Vent Valve (FLVV) controls the flow of vapors out of the fuel tank. The valve closes when the liquid level reaches a height associated with fuel tank usable capacity. The valve accomplishes the following:
Limits the total amount of fuel that can be dispensed into the fuel tank.
Prevents liquid gasoline from exiting the fuel tank when submerged, as well as when tipped well beyond a horizontal plane as part of the vehicle rollover protection in road accidents.
Minimizes vapor flow resistance during anticipated refueling conditions.
Fuel vapor tubing connects the FLVV to the EVAP canister. This routes the fuel tank vapors, displaced by the incoming liquid, to the EVAP canister.
A check valve in the filling system prevents liquid from rushing back up to the fuel filler pipe during the liquid flow variations associated with the filler nozzle shut-off.
Between refueling events, the EVAP canister is purged with fresh air so that it may be used to again store vapors accumulated during engine soaks or subsequent refueling events. The vapors drawn off of the carbon in the EVAP canister are consumed by the engine.


According to Alldata the source of this data, the problem could be one or all three of the parts listed below.

Damaged Fuel Filler Pipe
Damaged Canister Vent Solenoid
Damaged fuel vapor valve tube assembly

Which leads to a pin point test for each item. these test can be carried out by Ford with their specialized tools.

Without these tools you may as well start buying parts starting with the least expensive easiest to replace part first and most common.

Which I would guess would be the Canister Vent Solenoid and wiring harness pigtail connector.

Both should be available from Rock Auto or partsgeek and other sources.

On my truck which has the same problem I was going to replace the canister as well. while inspecting my system the harness connector fell apart in my hands while trying to disconnect it.

The connector was old and brittle which is why I suggested buying it before you attempt to replace just the valve.


Here is a link to the vent solenoid you can tell by the number of reviews this part cured a lot of vehicles having the same problem as our truck.

https://www.amazon.com/APDTY-Evapora...vapor+canister

here is a link to an aftermarket canister if you think you need one or just want to replace it while you have the system down.

the Ford part sells for just a little more

https://www.amazon.com/Dorman-911-30...vapor+canister

I did not provide the link to the Harness pigtail replacement since I do not know if any of these parts will fit your year truck so look them up yourself to make sure.

the links provided are just to show you what I am going on about.

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Thanks guys.

It appears to be a "fun" job to do. lol.
I found an aftermarket fill tube and hoses. I will start there.

Denny

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Dennyd928
2001 Edge 4X4 Supercab 4.0

Welcome Denny, Glad you found us. Have fun and enjoy FRF. There are a lot of you tubes on this issue and how to repair it, most times no parts required.
From Don
Grove City, Ohio.

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Denny, welcome to FRF. I replaced the filler neck & the hoses on my 2000 Ranger a few years ago & I used an engine hoist & removed the bed to get good access. Here is a link to the place where I purchased the filler neck & hoses.

http://www.fillernecksupply.com/sear...2B2001&Search=

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