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Old 04-01-2016, 06:02 PM
A Scary Gorilla A Scary Gorilla is offline
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Default Window wires

Im going down the list of problems on my truck, 2004 Ford Ranger Off road level ll, right now its getting my driver window to work. I dont think its a regulator problem because the wires to the control are cut. Yeah, CUT. Kind of narrows it down, anyways i need to replace the wires for it. Help?

Is there a diagram on the where the wires go? Can I just splice another wire to the existing wire? Any ideas?

Lock switch doesnt work, was thinking of just replacing that entire wire bunch.

Window doesnt move when i try to push it down or up.
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:19 PM
EaOutlaw1969 EaOutlaw1969 is offline
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Default Re: Window wires

Take pictures of what you found and post them here.

There is a difference between cut and missing wires.

If the wires to the switch are just cut, you should be able to solder the wires back together.

Sign up to the AutoZone web site for free then look under manuals for your truck you may find the wiring diagram your looking for.

If not just sign up to Alldata Diy they for sure will have the diagrams you may need.

For now just post pictures of the cut wires and we can go from there.
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:40 PM
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I hope the pictures work.
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Old 04-01-2016, 06:42 PM
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Heres the thing. The 3rd picture shows the wires for the window, I cant find those wires anywhere. They are definetily thicker than the other wires so are the wires totally gone, or do they feed into a different spot?

the lock wires are cut and so is the mirror wires.
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Old 04-01-2016, 09:39 PM
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Default Re: Window wires

Here are the wiring diagrams to the windows. Hope it helps.



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Old 04-02-2016, 05:29 AM
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Wow what a mess, Looking at the first picture the door conduit that the harness goes through has wires poking out the side and through the conduit.

I would make sure the battery is disconnected then pull the lower dash cover and metal plate plus drivers side kick panel.

Look for more wires that have been cut and tampered with. passengers door, under head liner, along each side of the truck under the carpet, behind the radio under the hood etc. A hack like this obviously did not just screw up the drivers door harness I am sure his reach went well beyond what your seeing.

You may have to search the entire vehicle for more hacked up wiring.

Once you know the severity of your problem and extent of damage to the harness.

You may want to go to a junk yard and pull the sections of harness you need or better yet buy the entire harness.

You could try finding a NOS new old stock harness yet I am thinking you may not be able to find one.

To get a harness that matches exactly or close enough you will have to pay close attention to the VIN on both trucks and find a close match.

each truck should have the same options.

Take close up pictures of all the wiring and switches with you to the junk yard. once you get to the sections of wiring harness you need take pictures of how they were routed and make sure the wire color matches what you have.



The switch panel for the drivers door make sure it matches the passenger side.

It may have came out of another year Ranger.

Pretty much you need to investigate why someone would do this to their truck.

Go through the fuse panels and make sure each fuse is in the right spot and the right amperage fuse is in each slot.

I do not envy the work ahead of you, I have had to rebuild a few wiring harnesses in the past. Yet I had plenty of resources tools and equipment to know when I was done that the harness was rebuilt properly before i attached the battery again.

When I had my shop I had a Snap on ( Sun tools ) MTS 4000 with Simutech that connected between the computer and the computers wiring harness.

Siumtech was nothing more than a break out box except it was computerized in 30 seconds to a minute the computer would scan each wire connector and sensor switch etc if you had something open shorted etc the computer would give you a detailed list of what it found where it thought the problem was or what test procedure you should use to pin point the problem.

you may consider something like this if you can find a shop that has simutech and knows how to use it, after you have made repairs to the wiring.

my Rangers harness was hacked all to hell by the punk previous owner who was being cool and modding the truck. yet everything he touched was a complete hack job. I am lucky I found all the hacked wires and repaired them before my truck burnt up. At least i think I found all the hack work.

The fourth picture shows the rats nest I pulled from various areas of my truck.

I am not sure what other help I can provide to you for now until you take enough of the truck apart to see the extent of the damage.
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Old 04-02-2016, 08:21 AM
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Default Re: Window wires

Get you a soldering gun and shrink insulators and start matching wires.Pull the passenger side door panel for a guide and match the wires.
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Old 04-02-2016, 09:49 AM
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Default Re: Window wires

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Originally Posted by A Scary Gorilla View Post
I hope the pictures work.
They do. Those are not the correct switches and bezel for an 04, they are from a newer Ranger; the third pic reveals this. On the outside, it would seem that someone tried to incorporate the newer trim and failed. Miserably.

Edit: Here is the link to a pic collection made when I added auto up to my left power window. You might find these pics helpful.

http://www.fordtruckfanatics.com/gal...ry.php?cat=871
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Old 04-02-2016, 11:43 AM
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Ohhh great haha. This truck has so many funny quirks its a joke. Alright thanks guys, i suppose i got some work to do.
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Old 04-06-2016, 10:17 PM
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Hey does it matter how i connect wires? is there a better way? I have a ton of butt connectors laying around the house. Would those be acceptable to connect, or is there something more secure?
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Old 04-07-2016, 10:28 AM
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I guess it all depends on how durable, reliable and long lasting you want the end result to be. Myself, I never, ever use those cheapo squeeze connectors. However, for 16GA and heaver wiring me uses (the correct size) copper butt splice connector (looks like a small piece of copper pipe with a few holes in it) where you strip and insert each wire, squeeze/crimp, solder, and then cover this with shrink wrap. Marine grade shrink wrap, because it seals and has adhesive in the seal. For 18GA and lighter, me tightly wraps wiring together, solders, then finishes the job with marine grade shrink wrap. When making multiple splice in a harness such as you will be doing, it it preferred to stagger the splices so as to not get a big bulge. When done, wrap the repaired harness with with either Super 33+ or good 3M friction tape.

If you go to bbbind.com and look at electrical TSB's, Ford has one that addresses splicing wires.
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Old 04-07-2016, 04:26 PM
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solid man thanks
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