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Old 11-24-2013, 01:03 PM
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the green light only comes on when the autolamps are activated...throw a blanket on the windshield and turn the key on
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:09 PM
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Did it, the truck is running right now with the headlight switch off and no indicator light or headlights on.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:10 PM
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The green light comes on when the mirror has successfully turned on the relays (and theoretically, the head/park lights). It doesn't light up to indicate that that the system is capable of functioning, but rather, only when it is actually functioning.

If auto on is not functioning, I'd ground that wh-purp wire at the mirror and see if the lights come on. If not, break out the DMM and check wiring between the mirror and wherever the relay power source is.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:26 PM
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Ok I'll give it a shot, just to be certain tho when you say ground it at the mirror, are you suggesting shorting the purple wire to the ground wire?

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Running the jumper between the purple and ground wire did nothing except turn on my interior/ ohc lights.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:26 PM
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Ok I'll give it a shot, just to be certain tho when you say ground it at the mirror, are you suggesting shorting the purple wire to the ground wire?
Yes, that's how it operates, the mirror is grounding that circuit when it's dark (dark on that clip on to the mirror mount, 2-wire photo sensor). I'm prepping to do this same mod; I have a harness for it, I did these tests last week, I wired one side of the relays to a battery and the other side to wh/purp on the mirror, like I said, it's the ground. I wired the rest of the mirror as shown in this writeup, and before testing I looked at the schematics for a 1998 and a 2000 Explorer. Predictably, everything was right. Powered it all up, everything including auto lamps works fine. wh/purp really is ground. I do believe that the wiring on the other side of the relay can be either hot at all times, or keyed; but I would have to check some notes I too when looking at Explorer wiring. I think it's always hot.

Did you use a special tool to get your old mirror off without busting your windshield or is there an easier, tool free way?
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:31 PM
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Ok it all sounds good maybe I goofed it up or I have a bad mirror. I'll start over from scratch and give it a shot, thanks for your time.
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Old 11-24-2013, 01:35 PM
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NP, what I told you about grounding that wh/purp wire at the mirror should tell you if you have a wiring issue between the mirror to the relays, something is messed up with the other mirror wiring (probably not so if dimming is working) or, a bad mirror. You *could* possibly have two relays with bad contacts.
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Old 11-24-2013, 04:06 PM
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I used a small screwdriver to remove it. To avoid potentially cracking your windshield, try to put the screwdriver as far back into the hole as possible. The mirror mount will flex at the strap that goes around the center of the mount.
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Old 11-24-2013, 04:23 PM
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Weird, I have an autodim mirror in one hand and a small screwdriver in my other hand and there's no place to insert the screwdriver. It's like you have to lay a piece of metal against the windshield to pry against, then use something flat and shaped sorta like a shovel to pry against a flat, metal section of the mirror; this section amounts to being a very stiff spring. Pry hard enough, tabs on that flat spring will clear the glued to the windshield button, and slide it off. If you don't crack the glass or pull the button off the windshield. What am I missing, seems just to risky to be the right way.
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Old 11-24-2013, 06:29 PM
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My 03 mirror had a 1/4" notch at both the top and bottom of the mount. My screwdriver went in the notch and braced against the metal plate that's glued to the windshield.

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Ya that's the wiring I have going. I am not sure what's going on, but this is bad, I can't drive at night right now...does the module to the left of the head unit have anything to do with the cluster lights or hvac lights? For some reason I think the issue has got to be in there, but I'm not sure what that module is called so I can't get a wiring diagram to confirm.
Did you ever get this problem resolved? I'm in the same boat right now. The mod didn't work and what's worse my dash lights no longer light up. Same year too, wonder if there's a connection.
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Old 11-24-2013, 07:21 PM
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Are you 100% sure that you wired it as shown in his schematic? And by that, I'm not really focusing on exactly at what point you tapped into your wiring, I'm thinking about the function of the wire that you tapped into being exactly what he has stated on that schematic. Also, there schematics for free on bbbind.com. You don't really have to open an account, just type in for name whatever, same with email and all that, and away you go.

The reason I'm asking this is, I don't believe that any of the wires you needed to tap into have anything to do with dash lights.

*I don't know what you tapped into to run the HL/PL relays or in particular, if you tapped into the dash light circuit for that and if you're blowing a fuse because of that. Me, I wouldn't tap into dash light for that if you did; those large, square Ford relays, if that's what you're using, they draw 180mA and there's two of them.
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Old 11-24-2013, 08:31 PM
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I only tapped in to the large Brown,Red/Yellow, Blue/Orange, and Tan wires. I liked the idea of being able to not have them function in ACC so I hooked the mirror red/yellow to the red/yellow of the GEM. I connected the green and yellow wire to the dome green/orange inline with my OHC splice. The black wire went to the same screw as my OHC mounting plate.
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Old 11-24-2013, 09:09 PM
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Those details I ca't help with, sorry. Your model year is different than mine. But, what I have done in prep for the mod is I've compared how both a 1998 and a 2000 Explorer were wired and I will be mimicking that. I have a harness, I'm hoping to hook several wires up using the port on the drivers side of the dash. Exceptions will be the wire for reverse and the relays and relay wiring, that I will be installing in the BJB under the hood, it's gonna look 100% OEM under there. While I don't know the exact details of your wiring (cuz they reded it in 04 when they got rid of the GEM and went to the SJB), I can say that I'd pull up the schematics on bbbind.com and see if where you tapped into your wiring makes sense. I'd want to see if anything I did impacted the dash lights. Any chance you shorted them or did something when working around the dimmer switch and that took out the fuse?
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Old 11-25-2013, 01:46 PM
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OK everyone I'm back at it, first I checked my fuses at the power distribution box and #33 15A was blown. Replaced it and the dash,running and tail lights all function. Then I went and picked up a multimeter and checked for continuity throughout the connections. As it turns out my dome tap did not get a good bite into the wire. Reconnected everything and the auto dim function worked right away. However I've slid the switch all the way to the right on the mirror, taped over the sensor on the back of the mirror covered my windshield with a blanket, and gave the system power and still no auto headlights. Rechecking everything now. Any ideas?
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Old 11-25-2013, 06:54 PM
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UPDATE: it turns out that my relays weren't switching as they should. I went out to the batt with my multimeter to test them and "snap" they clicked like they should. I was worried that they had broken because after they clicked I could hear something rattling inside of them. Anywho I reinstalled them and everything seemed to work. During my test I turned off the truck and waited to see how long it would take for them to turn off and I took the entire 3 min. I rechecked that it was on the lowest setting that wasn't off and got the same results. I then figured I'd go down to the junkyard and get another mirror and see if that would fix the issue and it still takes 3 min for the lights to turn off. Not sure why this is happening but maybe the power from the GEM isn't allowing it to cut off until the trucks relay kills power.
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