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Old 03-09-2011, 08:12 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

why do you need a build sheet when you can just take a wheel off and look at it. I explained they even look different, plus you can measure them

I wouldnt trust a build sheet over walking outside and looking at the dang truck proof on that point my VIN and build sheet states my truck is a 4x4 offroad package every option checked and 2 DOOR ext cab.... you walk outside and my truck is a 4 DOOR ext cab... thats a big screw up
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Old 03-09-2011, 08:24 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

I went for the build sheet just because I want to have one. It is unrelated to finding out what brakes i need. The way I see it, if the build sheet comes before I get the truck up to look at the brakes then I'll know anyway, lol.

edit: thats crazy about your build sheet being so inaccurate! I got one for a dodge dakota and it was spot on. I have been keeping a folder for the truck with all the parts/paperwork etc I gather on it and thought this would be a good addition to the folder.

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Old 03-08-2013, 04:59 PM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

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the rule of thumb on the rear brakes.

Ext cab = 10"

Reg cab = 9"


there has been a few ext cabs with 9" but it isnt common.

also look at them the 9" is finned and the 10" isnt







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HAHA no... the only difference level II rangers have on the axle then regular ranger, is its a WHOLE different axle its a 31 spline but the brakes are the same as any other.
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Which size would i have, I have a 2000 Ranger XL EXT CAB, Not an XLT.. its 4wd, would it be safe to get 9 or 10"???
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Old 03-08-2013, 05:25 PM
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I think the 8.8s are 10" and the 7.5 are 9"

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Old 04-18-2013, 07:26 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

Without jacking the truck up and removing the wheel and drum (a pain if its your only mode of transportation), its a lot easier to measure the width of the rear drums. the 10" shoes are 2.5" wide, while the 9" shoes are 1.75" wide.
Here is what was offered:

7.5" ring gear, 10" brakes, 3.73 ratio
7.5" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio
7.5" ring gear, 9" brakes, 3.73 ratio
7.5" ring gear, 9" brakes, 4.10 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 3.55 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 3.73 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 9" brakes, 3.55 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 9" brakes, 3.73 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 9" brakes, 4.10 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio, FX4 (locking), Level II
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio, FX4 (locking), w/o Level II
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.56 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio, exc. FX4
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:04 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

*FACE PALM*

I am not retyping what i just lost.
  1. 1996 2.3 ext ranger
  2. think it came with 9"
  3. the person I bought it from put on 10"
  4. adjuster is all the way IN
  5. any adjustment out and the drum rubs and locks up.
  6. Can you find out the correct size from the VIN?
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:11 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

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Which size would i have, I have a 2000 Ranger XL EXT CAB, Not an XLT.. its 4wd, would it be safe to get 9 or 10"???
You'll be able to see if it's finned or not just by looking at it. If you really want to be sure just take the wheel and drum off and measure the inside diameter of the drum... That might take 5 minutes to check.
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:24 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

Say they were ORIGINALLY 9" and now have 10" how do I tell what was ORIGINALLY on the truck from factory?

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Ran the VIN and this is the results.

AAGAX TWIN CITIES PLANT BUILT
AC0B0 MANUAL AIR CONDITIONER
BYBAF REAR JUMP SEATS
B3AAB WITH RH 2ND ROW FLIP OPEN WINDOW
B3CAB WITH RH 3RD ROW FIXED WINDOW
B3HAB WITH MANUAL OPEN REAR WINDOW (FLIP)
B3HAD SLIDING REAR WINDOW
B5WAC WITH SMALL FLOOR CONSOLE
CJRAK XLT B/S ACCENT STRIPE
CLFAE FRONT BUMPER-STEEL-CHROMED
CLMAE REAR BUMPER-STEEL STEP-CHROMED
CLVAB FRT LICENSE PLATE BRKT/HOLDER
DAAAD WITH SUPER ENGINE COOLING SYSTEM
D2RED 6J X 14 DEEP DISH ALUMINIUM WHEEL
D2SEJ 7J X 15 DEEP DISH ALUMINIUM WHEEL
D2SEY 7 1/2J X 15 DEEP DISH WHEEL
D3ETB P225/70R14SL S/BLT OWL A-S
EGAJB 3.73 FINAL DRIVE RATIO
EGJAB NON-LIMITED SLIP REAR AXLE
EGLAB FORD/VISTEON AXLE VENDOR
EJABN 2750 LB(1247 KG) REAR AXLE ASSY
EM0B0 49 STATE/FEDERAL REQUIREMENTS
EN0GR OHC 2.3L SOHC EFI NA I4 GAS*TP
GPAAB WITH POWER STEERING(FIXED RATIO)
GRAAC TILT STEERING WHEEL
GTDAB SPEED CONTROL
HTAAC HEAVY DUTY BATTERY
IBAAG ELECT AM/FM/STEREO/CASSETTE/CLOCK
PNPDA CAYMAN BLUE 93
TR0RQ 5 SPD MAN TRANS MAZDA M5R1
000ZV MED GRAPHITE
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:28 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

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Say they were ORIGINALLY 9" and now have 10" how do I tell what was ORIGINALLY on the truck from factory?
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Without jacking the truck up and removing the wheel and drum (a pain if its your only mode of transportation), its a lot easier to measure the width of the rear drums. the 10" shoes are 2.5" wide, while the 9" shoes are 1.75" wide.
Here is what was offered:

7.5" ring gear, 10" brakes, 3.73 ratio
7.5" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio
7.5" ring gear, 9" brakes, 3.73 ratio
7.5" ring gear, 9" brakes, 4.10 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 3.55 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 3.73 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 9" brakes, 3.55 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 9" brakes, 3.73 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 9" brakes, 4.10 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio, FX4 (locking), Level II
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio, FX4 (locking), w/o Level II
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.56 ratio
8.8" ring gear, 10" brakes, 4.10 ratio, exc. FX4
list is correct, you should be able to find out if you find out what size ring gear your truck has.

Why are you so interested in if your truck came with different sized drums? The drums aren't interchangeable and would need different sized backing plates to go with different sized drums.
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Old 04-13-2014, 05:31 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

No adjustment on the adjuster. even a .200th turn causes the shoes to rub and wheel to lockup upon braking. adjusted all the way in because you cant adjust out.
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Old 04-16-2014, 09:18 AM
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Default Re: rear brake size, 9" or 10", how to tell?

Interested because of the rubbing and lockup of the right rear brake. It's snowing out today so i will not be able to rip it apart again, but if you want information regarding measurements please let me know and i will get them. Wondering if the guy before me used the wrong size shoes with wrong size drums. That can be done. We saw an issue of the same nature 2 years ago at our shop and can't remember visually. Or it could be the wrong adjuster.
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Old 05-06-2014, 06:47 AM
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Ok............. I have seen some really neat mods/fixes and some really bad head scratching ones. The ones i have found on this truck are up there in the, "You have got to be kidding me division". Here is the list so far.


Exhaust: There was no muffler about 8 pieces of exhaust put together with self tappers to complete the exhaust. Decided to pull it apart and you would never guess what i found. 4ft of window screen in 6in sections rolled up. It does make sense how it worked, but probably not the best way to fix it. Missing CAT as well.



Hanger bearing (center support bearing): Just a little info for everyone. There are 23 different front driveshafts for 1995-1997 Mazda/Ford B2200/Ranger and 2 different sized hanger bearings for the 1996 2.3L Ranger. Yes, i am sure it is for quite a few different years as well. One is for the front drive shaft with a 1.250 OD where the bearing sits, and the other (MINE) 1.181 OD. Went to Oreilly's and bought a hanger bearing for my truck because it was vibrating really bad from 40-60mph. At slower speeds i could hear this tinking like a loose washer somewhere under my truck. Figured out the tinking once i climbed under and looked. Yet again another finding that was done with no common sense. Just so everyone knows the big washer looking thing that comes with the hanger bearing is actually a shield to protect the bearing from getting hit and protected from dirt, sand, ect. If it is not attached when you buy the bearing you have to take the bottom plate off, remove the bearing, put the shield on the FLAT side of the bearing (not the "v" side), and put it back together. This was not done because they thought it would get tightened up when you put the yoke back on. The bearing is installed with the shield facing the front of the truck for deflection.
All the information above was not known until 2-3 days after trying to install the damn 1.250 bearing on a 1.181 and found out that the bearing i purchased was the correct box, but the WRONG DAMN BEARING. Got the correct bearing, installed it, and OMG she drives like a new truck.

Firewall Forward: Truck has been wrecked. Tried adjusting the hood to where is is somewhat uniform, but done with no luck. Although it is better than what it was. Drivers side, from front of the door to the bumper is 1" shorter than the passenger side. Front drivers side of the front clip is bolted correctly to the frame, but......... oh yeah there's the but you were looking for. The passenger side is held together by? Can you guess what it is held together by?.........An............8............Inch....... .....Long..............3/4..............Inch............OD................. ..POST NAIL!!!!!!!!!! Are you freaking kidding me? Really? It is being used to pull the passenger side towards the drivers side to kinda make it look straight.

*Face Palm* Oh don't worry. I am sure i will have more for you guys. I am getting ready to change the shocks on this bad boy. Oh! passenger drive axle rim bolt face is bent. need to replace that as well. The reason I bought the truck is because it does not leak any fluids except for the steering fluid and the oil stays that nice semi-translucent brown like fresh oil, and the timing belt has been replaced.


Still having issues with the BRAKES clunking while going down the road. It is intermittent and doesn't do it all the time. Could be related to the bent axle rim face.

Thank you for taking the time to read about my fun adventure with this truck and stay tuned for more to come. I hope someone finds the information within the plethora of retardation useful.
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