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Old 03-04-2010, 01:29 PM
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Well for starters I don't believe its even possible to convert used motor oil into gasoline. Though just for shits and giggles lets assume there is a method to do just that. We'll also assume that this method is 100% efficient: that is for every quart of oil you would yield a quart of gasoline. The majority of gasoline engines hold 5 or less quarts of oil (diesel is another story). So assuming everyone cooperated with this plan each person would have 5 or less quarts of gasoline which would be burned in a week max. Now what? All engines would now be running synthetic so after that 5 quarts is gone there is no more gas left unless we start importing again.
Well it's a thought. They refine everything else so why not. I did mean to put in the diesel vehicles out there but must've forgot. Your average everyday 18 wheeler holds 15 quarts of oil. It's thinking along the lines of some other way to produce gasoline that the federal government doesn't do. I'll be googling it to see if there's a way to make our own gasoline.


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yeah my engine hates it. but i built an engine for my roomates 95 cobra this past summer and its a 306 and i got the compression up to 10.96:1 by my figuring and it loves it, it runs alot better on 10% ethanol it has more power and more mpg on it, but my 9.08:1 compression doesnt like it at all.

as far as turning old engine oil into gas i believe it would be possible but i think it would be too expensive to refine it into gas, but maybe im wrong
Well you do have a point about the price tag. See the ethanol based gasoline is best for high compression engines.

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I finally found ethanol free gas in southwestern PA. QuikFill/Red Apple stations are owned by the United Refining Company in Warren PA which does not, as of yet, add ethanol to their gas. It looks like their exploring the possibility of starting in 2011 but until then I'm not buying gas anywhere else. They also distribute to some citgo and keystone stations.
So did you notice any changes in the performance and mpgs in your ranger?
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Old 03-04-2010, 01:54 PM
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So did you notice any changes in the performance and mpgs in your ranger?
Oh yeah. I'm 100 miles into the tank and I've only used about 1/4 when I'd normally use half in that distance. I can also go up hills in 4th now. Before I'd have to go down to 3rd or sometimes even second. Also sounds a little smoother I think. Its a happy truck now....
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:06 AM
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Oh yeah. I'm 100 miles into the tank and I've only used about 1/4 when I'd normally use half in that distance. I can also go up hills in 4th now. Before I'd have to go down to 3rd or sometimes even second. Also sounds a little smoother I think. Its a happy truck now....
It made a world of difference because you're not running a super high compression ratio. Most flex fuel vehicles run around 11.2:1 compression ratios. That's a shade below racing gasoline. Alot of the manuals state lower octane gas but they didn't take that into account when they printed the owners manuals. That means supreme unleaded with that kind of a CR.
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:19 AM
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your soposely so posed to add after 50,000 miles. my truck has 104,000 and let me tell you it works. i did it once then i didn't the second time because i did the synthetic blend and i didn't know if it would hurt it if i put it in so i didn't then. then i did a oil change with the same oil synthetic blend, this sunday and what a diff. it runs so much smoother nocks out some engine noise too. it does the job good. i am going to keep adding it. the first time i added it was 98,000 miles and it hasnt hurt the motor at all. runs great with it in! the diff is amazing. i really noticed it this time. it idles really really nicely. it takes the RPMs real smooth. just restored it hahahaha
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Old 03-09-2010, 12:48 AM
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Oh yeah. I'm 100 miles into the tank and I've only used about 1/4 when I'd normally use half in that distance. I can also go up hills in 4th now. Before I'd have to go down to 3rd or sometimes even second. Also sounds a little smoother I think. Its a happy truck now....

thats strange how it helped your 2.3 and it hurt my 2.5, i thought they had the same compression ratio
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Old 03-09-2010, 10:38 AM
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I just finished the tank and filled it back up and got a little over 21mpg. Before i was getting more like 16-17.
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yeah i was getting about 24 now im getting about 20,
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Old 03-11-2010, 01:03 AM
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thats strange how it helped your 2.3 and it hurt my 2.5, i thought they had the same compression ratio
Nope. They have different CR's. The new Rangers that are out have a CR of 9.8:2. They couldn't go any higher due to the Valve and piston clearance issues associated with stroking the engine. Plus the OHC also plays a huge roll as well. less HP but more lower end Torque and better MPGs once the engine is broken in. Basicly you've got less clearance with the OHC engines than you do with the OHV engines. Plus the engine on this year's model is made in Germany. We all know that the germans can make a killer engine. But in my book, nothing beats old school american muscle.
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Old 03-11-2010, 12:53 PM
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Nope. They have different CR's. The new Rangers that are out have a CR of 9.8:2. They couldn't go any higher due to the Valve and piston clearance issues associated with stroking the engine. Plus the OHC also plays a huge roll as well. less HP but more lower end Torque and better MPGs once the engine is broken in. Basicly you've got less clearance with the OHC engines than you do with the OHV engines. Plus the engine on this year's model is made in Germany. We all know that the germans can make a killer engine. But in my book, nothing beats old school american muscle.
yeah i knew the new 2.3 duratec had a higher compression, wasnt sure what it was, i was talking about the 2.3 and 2.5 lima engines. but after a little research i found out that the 94 2.3 has a 9.2 and my 2000 2.5 has 9.4. i think i put on here that mine had a 9.08 but i was thinking about another engine. that makes it more surprising that mine has a higher compression ratio and i got negative results from the 10% ethanol and he got postive results with the lower compression.

and i also like how this thread was about restore engine treatment and all were talking about it ethanol haha
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Old 03-11-2010, 05:20 PM
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and i also like how this thread was about restore engine treatment and all were talking about it ethanol haha
Down with corn!
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:37 PM
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Old 03-11-2010, 07:41 PM
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yeah i knew the new 2.3 duratec had a higher compression, wasnt sure what it was, i was talking about the 2.3 and 2.5 lima engines. but after a little research i found out that the 94 2.3 has a 9.2 and my 2000 2.5 has 9.4. i think i put on here that mine had a 9.08 but i was thinking about another engine. that makes it more surprising that mine has a higher compression ratio and i got negative results from the 10% ethanol and he got postive results with the lower compression.

and i also like how this thread was about restore engine treatment and all were talking about it ethanol haha
Well the CR is what restore is suppose to fix. The CR disappears over time that's why a Cylinder Leak down test is used after you check your CR and noticed an unacceptable leakage percentage. usually 60% is around the norm for real old engines and newer engines is around 40 % give or take.
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Well the CR is what restore is suppose to fix. The CR disappears over time that's why a Cylinder Leak down test is used after you check your CR and noticed an unacceptable leakage percentage. usually 60% is around the norm for real old engines and newer engines is around 40 % give or take.
yeah i actually did a compression test about 3 months ago, not for any reason just figured i would just because i could and i dont remember what the numbers were but i remember that all four cylinders were a couple psi above the acceptable range in my haynes book
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yeah i actually did a compression test about 3 months ago, not for any reason just figured i would just because i could and i dont remember what the numbers were but i remember that all four cylinders were a couple psi above the acceptable range in my haynes book
Performing those tests are fun as hell. The Chilton manuals are alot better and have more details. Haynes has a bad habit of not being "model specific". Haynes uses too much general info rather than details. But they still have some info that is usable though.
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Old 03-21-2010, 05:48 PM
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Anyone have experience with this? I've heard it will add compression back to tired motors, but I'm leery of believing automotive claims. It's been around for a while, but I don't know anyone who has used it. I've got a 2.9L that's tired, and I want to give it a little more life.

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tried it but didnt work for me i tried lucas,stp engine restore, no smoke, etc nothing works for me still use 1 quart a week with no drips in my garage.....
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